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12-06-2007, 11:50 AM | #481 | |
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Farael - Might
Might - Menel 9 to vote. I checked yesterDay's votes again and Shasta had indeed voted (so no risk of modfire yet). I don't understand how I managed not to notice that as I had counted the votes myself. I'll have to vote in 1-1,5 hours, and at the moment I'd like to vote Brinniel, as she's the one I'm most certain about. Quote:
I'm a bit reluctant to vote Might toDay, mainly due to his last two posts. They strike me as way too sincere. I can be terribly wrong here but anyway: I think Menel is innocent. He's been acting quite suspiciously during last Days, but I agree with Mac about his accusations of morm being too bold for a wolf. Anyway, it's just a feeling, and I will certainly reconsider it if Brinniel turned out to be innocent, which I doubt. edit: xed with Might, whose last post is not one of those two that make me reluctant.
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The Might, I see that being suspected isn't easy for you. It's not always easy for everybody, especially when the accusations are valid. However, if you're evil, you knew that this was going to happen eventually, and if you're innocent, keep in mind that as many innocents as villains are lynched - it's just a part of the game, as is being terribly wrong with what you write and do. Don't take it to heart that much. Volo's "morm should have told us" seems incredibly fake to me. No, he shouldn't have! -It was not certain whether he would be lynched. -There was no way he could have proved it. -The night after he would be dead for certain. -A wolf about to be lynched might do it hoping to get some reaction from the real ranger for his surviving. Even though you explained it, Volo, your mixing up of the suspicion of Lommy points towards somebody who doesn't actually care who he is suspecting. I agree that, if Menel is a wolf, then Volo is most likely innocent. But keep in mind that this holds the other way around, too. Somehow, I feel like I'm focusing on the Might and Volo too much. About Kath's dreams: She probably dreamt of Lommy and most probably of morm. I'm quite sure of Lommy's innocence now anyway, even independent of Kath. The third, I think, was some innocent who hasn't been suspected a lot, therefore she didn't feel the need to talk about him/her. |
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12-06-2007, 12:26 PM | #483 |
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Good points about Might, Mac. It seems to be way too easy to make me think someone is innocent. And that makes me also realise both Mac and Volo have been flying under my radar this far. I guess I should read through their posts and try to form an opinion.
So, my vote will go for either Brinn or Might. Is there anyone else who could vote Brinn? I would really like to have her lynched.
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Hmm, actually, talking about radars that are flown under.... I guess I should read through her posts and try to form an opinion first. Quote:
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12-06-2007, 12:43 PM | #485 |
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Agan scared me for a moment. I was sure I'd only missed the Day 1 vote... phew. :P
As for how quiet I'm being, I don't mean to. I just rarely have time to go back and reread things. Right now, for example, I'm rushing out the door (I'm scheduled for a headshot today). If the deadline isn't past when I get back, Lommy, I'll do my best to articulate my points on Volo for you. For now, though, since it's not a sure thing that I WILL be back, I need to get a vote in. There's a vote for The Might, and a vote for Menel, and while I'd like to see Volo lynched, I'm not sure about the rest of the village, so I don't want to throw away my vote. Since of the two, Menel seems the furrier, I will ++ Meneltarmacil |
12-06-2007, 12:46 PM | #486 | ||
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I don't like the way Mac's rhetorics affect me. He makes me more suspicious of TM. I consider it worrying I trust his points so much: while I trust innocent Macalaure's points, I have no way of knowing he's innocent this time and he's one of those people who no one suspects and thus would be total disasters if wolves... Quote:
Miggy, the confusing thing about you is that I really don't know what you are. You look terribly wolvish, so wolvish that I doubt you can actually be one. Anyway, if you're innocent, please answer the accusations against you propely and start talking about your own suspicions, not everybody else's. EDIT: xed with Mac and Shasta
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12-06-2007, 12:48 PM | #487 |
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Because I thought your points were good. This far I've been thinking you're innocent, but I don't know if that's so rather because I haven't much considered the possibility of you being a wolf.
I'm a bit surprised though how defensively you reacted when I said I'll read through your posts. edit: xed with Lommy
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12-06-2007, 01:05 PM | #488 |
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Aaaargh. I really am stumped as to who the wolves are. Sorry that I haven't been much help.
++The Might since I'm not a wolf and he's the only other one that looks particularly suspicious.
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12-06-2007, 01:05 PM | #489 | |
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Guys, if it seems "extremely wolvish" why do we say "too wolvish to be possible"? Yes, I get that feeling too... Might is so darn suspicious it almost seems too easy... but what would you have us do? we have three wolves right now, and I'd say that one of them is playing us WONDERFULY.... ''cos the only strong suspicions we have are Might and Menel so even if we had two wolves there, the third one is completely slipping under the radar. And let me remind you all of something... there are three wolves and eight of us ordos... we've got to be careful because another two innocent double-lynch would put us in a really hard spot... I'm not saying "vote only for one person" but if there's a huge voting train at the end of the day, keep it in mind. Not that I think that either Might is an ordo, and Menel looks pretty fishy himself but... let's be careful, we don't want anoter Might (meaning, another last-minute double-lynch)
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12-06-2007, 01:07 PM | #490 |
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x-ed with Menel
Right now the voting stands Might- 2 Menel -2
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12-06-2007, 01:22 PM | #491 |
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I hope that we're not about to see a repeat of yesterday...
As stupid as this will probably sound...I'm now getting skeptical of my suspicions of The Might and Menel and it just seems to be because they are both candidates in a potential double lynch scenario. Right now I'm suddenly getting very afraid of three people... Brinniel Aganzir Farael Brinniel I agree looks suspicious because she was arguing against a double lynching but voted for a third candidate and made a double lynching more likely. Aganzir I'm afraid I don't have a whole lot of rational reason for this...I'm just very suspicious of her all of a sudden. Farael...anybody else notice that he has a tendency to vote really early...and be really wrong. I have this bad feeling we've all been on the wrong track the whole time and that with The Might and Menel we're continuing to go down it.
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12-06-2007, 01:27 PM | #492 |
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++ Brinniel
I really think she should be killed. I'm going now. As Lommy already explained in the admin thread, it's very improbable that I'll have a chance to post anything on Day 5.
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I'd like to remark that on your previous post you said you were leaning towards voting for Might and or Menel and then getting rid of the other one in the next day. I think you are trying to get the village to go for a spin and start arguing on a tangent. While I'll be the first one to agree that focusing only on two suspects could be catastrophic at this point in the game, you are not saying "let's focus on someone else as well" you are saying "I have a bad feeling about these two suspects, why don't we look at these other people?".
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12-06-2007, 01:37 PM | #494 |
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Sorry to let you down, but I right now I can't afford posting any big posts, only small summaries like the previous one. Reason is that I have to write a test about imperialism tomorrow and there still is quite a lot of learning to do.
I think I'll log on right before the deadline to see how things stand.
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Did I touch a nerve?
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I also forgot to mention this... and keep in mind it's not a defence but rather, showing flawed, weak accusations.
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12-06-2007, 01:43 PM | #497 |
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x-posted with you. I'm not defending myself, i'm attacking you.
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The problem with suspecting Menel is at this moment is that nearly everybody seems to suspect him, which is very odd if he's a Wolf. But I'm quite convinced that Kath Dreamed of him. Quote:
As from now to the deadline I can fully concentrate on WW, I'll do that. I'm not too happy with lynching Brinn, but I'll look at what has been pointed about her actions by Aganzir and Lommy. EDIT: Xd with Farael, twice. |
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12-06-2007, 01:47 PM | #500 |
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No, after you posted some non-sense, which included my name.
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12-06-2007, 01:49 PM | #501 |
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You're posting like you are scared of something.
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12-06-2007, 01:55 PM | #502 |
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Then you've never played with me, which you have... have I ever refrained myself from accusing someone who seemed wolfish? even if I've been wrong often lately doesn't mean I'll stop trying to find a wolf and start trying to "look innocent"
Or is that what you'd have us do? have everyone give up the search and start trying to look as "unwolfish" as possible by doing the easy things?
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l have to agree with Farael on this one, Kuru.
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Aganzir was the first to fly accusations at me...but I somehow doubt a wolf would be so persistent on an innocent (which I am) at this stage. Because once she's proven wrong, she should realise everyone would probably start to suspect her. It's a bit too obvious to actually be wolfish, if that makes any sense. I'm thinking there's a good chance a wolf was one of the ones quick to support her theories on me. Namely Volo, Kuru, and Mac (though less likely him, since I still don't think he's very wolfish). Anyways, that'd only secure my thoughts on my original two suspects, especially if they are both indeed wolves. Because if I am right, the third wolf is probably very scared indeed.
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Now that is odd. I don't know what to make of Farael and Kuru's little argument... very interesting...
Unlike Farael, I think Kuru's "I have a bad feeling"-post seemed genuine - mostly because he sounded scaringly much like being right about the fact that Menel and Might might be both innocent after all. I'm really torn between voting Menel and Brinn but would like to avoid double lynch and I have a bad feeling we will lynch yet another ordo toDay... edit: xed with Brinn and Farael
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This is a bad topic so late, but I'm returning to what Kath said.
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Why is that, I wonder? Could it be that I finally have a wolf by the tail...?
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Look, I'm not saying we should all bandwagon on two suspects 'cos there's a chance of us being wrong... but if two people have been consistently suspected throughout the game, and acted in ways that everyone agrees are wolfish... what other evidence do we need? unfortunately, the Seer is gone without giving us any revelations, therefore previous behaviour is all we have to go on with. And are you going to tell me Might and Menel have not been suspicious? Yes, we could go for far-fetched theories and weak accusations, but I personally would rather act on STRONG accusations before grasping at straws. Edit: more mis-bolding
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And I'd like to re-emphasize that Farael didn't attack me until after I'd mentioned his name.
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Aganzir: In 99 she already starts to suspect A Little Green. This seems rather innocent to me. I can't believe the wolves planned to lynch their fellow newbie(!) wolf from day one on. She also says that voting TM is like throwing away one's vote. But then, that's how I felt, too, at that time. Her other thoughts of that day more or less are the same as mine, which doesn't prove anything, but isn't alarming as well. On day two she suggests that maybe the wolves killed Valier because she wanted to lynch the quiet ones, which is bogus. She backs away from it quickly, which leads me to think she wasn't sincere about it, which makes me think: wolf. She brings forth a strange theory about Menel, Rikae, and me. In 226, Legate is innocent, Lily and Sally are suspicious, Valier is in the middle, and morm and Kath she doesn't know about. She votes Lily at the serious third position. If the vote was wolvish, she's a very cold-blooded wolf. This doesn't seem to fit to the strange things she's been saying all day. Her main suspects in 293 are two known innocents and two unknowns. She makes a short analysis of Legate, still doubts Lommy but doesn't worry about her later, feels better about Menel and Sally, starts to worry about Brinniel. The way she resumes her suspicions of Sally is worrisome ("I don't like the way she's making me feel"). "If she lives, I'll be torn about her tomorrow" looks bad. Continues to go after Brinniel, something which I don't share, but which I wouldn't mind, but her reasoning either completely relies on TM's role or are made out of thin air (and look who agrees with Aganzir immediately: Volo (475)). She's a little too forward and backward about the Might. There definitely are suspicious elements in her posts. The Might's role will tell us something about her. I'm putting her right after Volo and the Might in my suspicion list. She will be joined there by Farael. Kuru's doubts about TM and Menel seem very honest to me and make me feel a lot better about him. Farael's attack comes out of nowhere and it doesn't seem to have a good intent behind it. (edit: crossed with..... many) |
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12-06-2007, 02:14 PM | #514 |
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Tommorow, I think it would do good to inspect people from the "talk-effect" side. Who have been the ones to move the discussion into something we pretty much know is futile and bad for that moment.
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Argh. While Farael and Kuru both strike me as innocentish as separate cases, their spat seems like there's a wolf involved. The problem is that I can't tell which one (and that I'm not sure about this). It is very interesting how Mac sides with Kuru and Brinn with Farael. That is something that should be looked at more closely if one of them dies and his/her role is revealed...
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12-06-2007, 02:27 PM | #516 |
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I need to vote very soon. And it will still be either Menel or Might, though I'm still undecided on which one.
Anyone (aside from Lommy) have a preference on which one? Since I suspect both, I'd really like to vote for whoever's more preferred to avoid another double-lynch.
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12-06-2007, 02:29 PM | #517 |
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I think I'm going to vote the Might. I think Menel is innocent, and Brinniel probably, too. All my other suspects are not in the running.
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12-06-2007, 02:32 PM | #518 |
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I skimmed through Brinn with a thought and I couldn't find the feel of her being a Wolf. I think she's Innocent. All that she has said has been said with too little flaws for a Wolf - the flaws that Wolves make. From the glance I couldn't find any special reactions to other people that would indicate fellow Wolves. That means:
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12-06-2007, 02:37 PM | #519 |
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A kingdom for a vote count
Farael -> TM TM -> Menel Shasta -> Menel (Menel 2, TM 1) Menel -> TM (Menel 2, TM 2) Aganzir -> Brinn (Menel 2, TM 2, Brinn 1) Volo -> Menel (Menel 3, TM 2, Brinn 1) left to vote: Lommy, Fea, Brinn, Kuru, and me. |
12-06-2007, 02:40 PM | #520 |
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Lommy said she wanted to vote Menel, I said I wanted the Might. Brinn and Kuru are undecided, I think. Where is Fea?
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