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Old 11-15-2007, 05:37 AM   #1
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They killed the cobbler? Has it ever happened before that the wolves took their cobbler down?

No time to gloat, though, while the three chief baddies are still around.

This post is somewhat defensive, I know, but I want it out of the way.
Okay, whatever. I just looked at this whole post once again. Seems really balrog-made. I'm voting. Que sera sera...

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Old 11-15-2007, 09:22 AM   #2
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An unsuspected lack of time has hit me this week, so I have to make it brief. I'll be there about an hour from the deadline.

I could make a long analysis of Legate and why he is out of his mind in this game so far, but I won't, because a) there's no time and b) I have a feeling I would end up with the conclusion that he's confused, but innocently confused, so it's probably not worth doing anyway.

At the moment, I trust Kath, Nerwen and maybe Mith, but that's all, sadly.

It's even sadder that many have still contributed too little for me to draw conclusions from (Lhuna, Shasta, Naria, Gil).

I don't know where to put Sally and the Might.

Be very wary of Nogrod, my dear friends, be very wary of Nogrod!

And while I'm 'only' very wary of Nogrod, I am very suspicious of Brinniel. I will come back to that when I'm back.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:28 AM   #3
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Well, back home and I notice that quite many posts have been regarding me being a bad guy, due to the fact that I agreed with Nogrod and also with Legate about Mac.
However, I had had my own suspicions about Mac from the start of the 2nd day. I felt that this constant need to explain the own decisions (lol, seems I'm doing that now) was a bit exaggerated and seems quite balrogish. And also, I must admit that as a new player in the game I do rather tend to somewhat trust the intuition of more experienced players. This of course does not mean that I would do anything an older player tries to convince me to, but as already said, since I already had my own suspicions abut Mac and some other god arguments were brought against him, I agreed with the others.
Since I was suspicious about Mac and he and Nogrod didn't seem to be on the best terms, I also felt that both he and Legate were and are innocent, as as Legate already pointed out, I somehow doubt the balrogs would sacrifice one of them just to make us feel safe from one of them. Of course, it is possible, but not really a good early game strategy in my opinion.

All in all, I've made up my mind, and am voting out

++Macalaure

I am quite certain about my vote and also am suspicious about Kath, but I'm not entirely sure about that one.

Sorry that I need to vote early again today and it's not because I want to avoid the ending discussion but because I'm invited to a friend who is turning 19 today. I mean, WW is nice, but I'm not saying no to cake. Anyway, he's got a computer with Internet so I might make a post later on if I have the chance to, but can't promise anything.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:40 AM   #4
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Nog, I can't believe you just called me 'dear'! I love this new patronising air you've popped up with. Look, by all means suspect people, it is after all the point of the game, it's the manner in which you're doing it that I meant clashes with people. Naria said something to that effect before you'd really even mentioned her so it isn't just a reaction to having suspicion put on you.

Anyway, I don't want to argue that point any more. It's obviously we both have very different ideas on it and I don't want to create a two-way fight, it's just boring. So let's look at the other things you said.

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I'd have cursed a lot if I hadn't voted her and the last minute votes would have turned the tables.
You claim that you're innocent, and we know now that Rikae was, so in terms of numbers it actually doesn't matter which one of you died, if one of you was going to. So why the cursing?

And the reason for the suspicion was that you voted for someone you considered to be innocent to save your own life, which is something I consider suspicious.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:53 AM   #5
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Anyway, I don't want to argue that point any more. It's obviously we both have very different ideas on it
Wholeheartedly agreed with! And as this seems to cover also the case of "patronising" (which meaning I had no idea about!) I guess we should discuss these semantic-emotional sides of English language after the game. But my intent is not to clash with anyone.


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You claim that you're innocent, and we know now that Rikae was, so in terms of numbers it actually doesn't matter which one of you died, if one of you was going to. So why the cursing?
Because I would have been out of the game after Day1 - as happend in the game before the last one... I like this game so it's not nice to get out of it on Day1. Simple as that. And remember, we didn't know then Rikae was innocent but I knew I am.

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And the reason for the suspicion was that you voted for someone you considered to be innocent to save your own life, which is something I consider suspicious.
There was no way my one vote would have saved her and even with a last minute flow of votes to me I didn't know whether Rikae was a goodie or a baddie... And I tried to have alternative candidates forwards. No one just paid heed to my calls.

But now I think we need some fresh ideas. I do agree with you about the duels... and they are not only boring but oftentimes also counterproductive as well.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:07 AM   #6
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I am voting:

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If he turns into a wolf then i will be staring more at Brinniel and i am sad of Mith's quietness...
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:45 AM   #7
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Okay, those I find suspicious/somewhat suspicious right now:

Mac for his odd behaviour. First, he was overly defensive and now he just seems to have this "I give up" attitude.

Nogrod whom I keep wobbling back and forth on. Some of his comments make me worrisome, while I find some of his arguments quite sensible.

Kath for her persistance on Nogrod. At first, I found her arguments against him reasonable, but she just keeps going at him and that irks me.

The Might for his bandwaggoning. Though I must admit, his last post makes me less suspicious. Perhaps, he is just a confused newbie.

I'm a little wary of Gil for his two Days of very safe voting (comfortably staying in the bandwagon). I don't know if I want to use the word suspicious just yet, but it does bother me.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:43 AM   #8
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Oh, Mac! You're not making this easier...

But I'm glad you posted. I have done some rethinking during the pauses today and well, at one time I was almost ready to say we stick to Kath and forget you from the lynchlist but...

I'd say you and Legate are not both innocents and probably not both balrogs either. Now some things which Legate has said toDay have really started to make me wonder about his game (and in that case he has played this sooo beautifully - hats off to him). But now as I read your post I'm afraid I'm back on square one again.

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And please people, bring forwards more suspects! I'm waiting to see what you have on Brinn, Mac as I've thought her a bit more unsuspicious lately - but I haven't given her any serious thought of late.

Also let's remember that having only vocal players on the lynch-row might in the end prove to be a bad decision.

So let's also consider some enigmas toDay.

OOC: I've a lot of work to do at home this evening but I will try to shove some of them aside to play this as well.
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