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Old 11-13-2007, 10:45 AM   #1
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Then there's Nogrod and Volo. I don't like the argument that Rikae is in no way gifted. I don't think we can be entirely sure. The argument also has an aftertaste of "She's not gifted, so when in doubt, we can lynch her without much of a loss." Even though they both denies this, it's in there nevertheless. I'm not saying Rikae is innocent, by no means, but by talking like this we're running in danger of making her an easy target for convenient throwaway-votes from which we cannot deduce anything tomorrow.
I do have to disagree with this. I really doubt Rikae is a gifted; why would she want to confuse the village when she is so important to them? Of course, this doesn't make an ordinary Rikae expendable. No ordinaries are expendable. But we're not even sure Rikae is an ordinary innocent.

I have to go to class. For awhile I was thinking about taking the laptop with me, but even then I probably couldn't post without my professor noticing I wasn't paying attention. I get out 15 minutes before deadline, so there is a possibility I'll be back before deadline, but that's a bit risky. So it's best I vote early:

++Rikae

I'm not entirely confident, but she is the most suspicious right now. If we wait until Day 2, a balrog Rikae could come back and say she did it because she didn't have time and didn't have any suspects, sounding entirely innocent all of sudden. I'm not sure I want to risk that.

Nogrod is my second-choice suspect mainly for his earlier posts, but there really isn't enough evidence to back up my suspicions at the moment.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:15 AM   #2
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I do have to disagree with this. I really doubt Rikae is a gifted; why would she want to confuse the village when she is so important to them? Of course, this doesn't make an ordinary Rikae expendable. No ordinaries are expendable. But we're not even sure Rikae is an ordinary innocent.
Hmm... we all know the roles of Ordinary Civilians before we even begun this madness and for stating that out loud seems like someone trying to be on the nice side of ordinaries... congrats Brinniel you just made my suspect list!

Kath doesn't strike me as anything right now... a very stupid WereBalrog move if she was it by striking Nogrod right away...i feel we let her live for today, if she does this burst of randomness again tomorrow then i will have no guilt voting her mainly as a nuisance.

But for my vote, if Rikae really wants to commit suicide then sure for nobody else has any sufficent misgivings towards them.


Oh and Brinniel is on my list not for voting Rikae but for taking advantage of that if Rikae indeed turns to be an innocent, then Brinniel can play off that again...

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Old 11-13-2007, 11:36 AM   #3
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Umm... Gil, you're putting yourself into the situation you're saying that Brinniel is in.

If Rikae is Innocent, you'll be able to attack Brinniel with the explanation you just gave us.

Looks pretty Balrogish to me.


I don't agree about Kath, Nogrod. She gives me the same vibes as in my first game, modded by Glirdan, where she was an ordo. I won't vote for her toDay.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:40 AM   #4
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Xd with Nogrod and Rikae there.

What is that all about, Rikae?? If you have a role that leads you to victory by being lynched the first, I think you'll achieve your goal. Really, what was that about??

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Old 11-13-2007, 11:46 AM   #5
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Nice to see that I'm confusing you all right now, though I must onestly say I didn't really intend to.

Well, it seems that except Rikae's strange decision nothing else happened that could really make you think someone is a balrog or not. So I must admit, making the vote isn't easy, but I'll just follow my Gondolindrim instinct and vote

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Old 11-13-2007, 12:10 PM   #6
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I'm afraid we are having a contest with two innocents going on... I don't know about Rikae but as I've said I'm not very comfortable with lynching her as we'd have better candidates out there.

And we're doing the classical mistake of lazily voting for the easy targets ie. those who have talked / those who have been talked about. With possibly the balrogs giving the boost at the right moments.

Well all those alive should think of these toMorrow. And the innocents should take a look on the mirror...

I'd go for Kath. With her I think we might have a go for a balrog - or at least the cobbler. Just check my post #43 for some points I think will actually hold. She clearly has no arguments and even jokes about them and still votes. She's clever enough to know what she is doing. Thence my suspicions for it doesn't look like action from someone who has the well-being of the village in her sight.

Or Gil then? His post fills all the requirements of jumping on the train already running with some totally baffling arguments. And if he's innocent and acts like that (looks at the bandwagon moving and jumps along) he's as dangerous to the village as the balrogs during the Day. What I mean is I'd risk Gil for Rikae thinking of the Days to come.

The silent balrogs seem to have won the Day once again which is a pity indeed.
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