Tapestry of Dreams, Part 2 Discussion - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mark12_30 · 09-14-2007, 10:10 PM

OK, I scanned back a bit.

Avarien (I realized a few minutes ago) was Nimrodel's guide across the White Mountains. Only she got Nimrodel to the top of the pass, pointed, and said, "There's Edhellond; go your way. But I shall turn back; I would rather have the Waters of Awakening, than these waters that will part from me all that I have loved." She then spent several hundred years searching for Cuivienen, but the shape of the world has changed, and she never found it. Whether she died of a broken heart, or whether she is languishing somewhere dreaming, Amroth's searching crossed her awareness and she came looking for Nimrodel again.

The idea of dropping Erebemlin makes me sad, but there it is. (Taitheneb is gne already? Guess I didn't read everything...) Real life intervenes, and extra characters are difficult to deal with. The only character totally essential (for me) is Mellondu/Amroth (and of course Nimrodel.) I"d like Mellonin to come too (better for the ending I had in mind.) Somebody's got to dream Imrazor and Mithrellas.

Have we managed to separate Mellonin from everyone who could connect Avarien's comminication with Nimrodel, and get that over to Mellondu-- or Erebemlin? Amroth would cheerfully resurface, given some hope about Nimrodel; it would be a tussle with Mellondu, I'd have to ponder that a bit.

End ramble. Did I answer any questions?

Imladris · 09-14-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mark12_30

Have we managed to separate Mellonin from everyone who could connect Avarien's comminication with Nimrodel, and get that over to Mellondu-- or Erebemlin? Amroth would cheerfully resurface, given some hope about Nimrodel; it would be a tussle with Mellondu, I'd have to ponder that a bit.

If I'm understanding you right we could have Gwyllion notice it and casually mention it to Aeron who'll mention it to Raefindan if you would want to do it that way.

mark12_30 · 09-14-2007, 10:31 PM

Hey Immy! Dreams, good, I like it. SO Gwyllion 'walks' with the White Mountains group but reports to Aeron via dreams? Okay.

Going over the mountains: right now we've got Ravion, Liornung, Bella, Leafa, and Ædegard, with Avarien/Mellonin, and Saethryd and Jorje all at the hut. Periphery: Roheryn and Rudh.

Who turns around to go back, who stays at Saethryd's hut, and who crosses the mountain path? I had envisioned Avarien/Mellonin crossing over the mountains, but she won't make it all on her own-- especially with her injury (how bad is it?) Although Roheryn will be a big help, he'll have a struggle at the icier parts near the top.

Imladris · 09-14-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mark12_30

SO Gwyllion 'walks' with the White Mountains group but reports to Aeron via dreams?

More of a caught in between worlds as a dream ghost (I think?)...anyway, no one can see her and as she wanders she hears Avarien....or something.

Anywho, I am pretty much exhausted tonight, so the post will probably be up by tomorrow since thank god it's the weekend.

mark12_30 · 09-14-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Imladris

More of a caught in between worlds as a dream ghost (I think?)...anyway, no one can see her and as she wanders she hears Avarien....or something.

Anywho, I am pretty much exhausted tonight, so the post will probably be up by tomorrow since thank god it's the weekend.

Works for me! Okay with the rest of the team, I hope?

Imladris · 09-15-2007, 03:31 AM

I took the liberty of going ahead with the post. If it is unsatisfactory let me know and I shall edit accordingly.

I was also re-reading (or skimming rather), this discussion thread, just to re-oil the gears as it were, and I came across the thoughts for Aedegard, specifically the dream in which he gets himself killed but then when he wakes up he goes with Leafa.

Was that still going to happen, or is there a new plan in place?

littlemanpoet · 09-15-2007, 06:11 AM

That's an amazing post, Immy!

Ædegard and Leafa are leaving the story. Unless Bellyn's writer comes back to us, she will leave the story....unless Nuru is willing to take her up.

Helen, if you're back now, then Ravion can stay because you can carry him. And you're the writer for Mellonin and Mellondu, so they stay.

Erebemlin has lost his writer. However, if he's the ONLY character that doesn't have a writer, anyone who wishes to can fill him in; the only problem is that Alak would do a better job, including the Marigold connection. Frustrating.

Liornung's writer is still around, although she has not yet written a post.

My earlier thought, before you returned, Helen, was that Mellondu could be killed and
Amroth switch to being hosted by Bergil, whose writer is still with us, but that won't be necessary now.

Nevertheless, Tharonwë sees an obvious strategy in trying to permanently get rid of the black smith. Remember, the Elf has learned how to use his mental abilities to put people in trances so that they do what he wants them to. I just can't remember the word for either ability off hand.

09-14-2007, 10:10 PM	#1
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	OK, I scanned back a bit. Avarien (I realized a few minutes ago) was Nimrodel's guide across the White Mountains. Only she got Nimrodel to the top of the pass, pointed, and said, "There's Edhellond; go your way. But I shall turn back; I would rather have the Waters of Awakening, than these waters that will part from me all that I have loved." She then spent several hundred years searching for Cuivienen, but the shape of the world has changed, and she never found it. Whether she died of a broken heart, or whether she is languishing somewhere dreaming, Amroth's searching crossed her awareness and she came looking for Nimrodel again. The idea of dropping Erebemlin makes me sad, but there it is. (Taitheneb is gne already? Guess I didn't read everything...) Real life intervenes, and extra characters are difficult to deal with. The only character totally essential (for me) is Mellondu/Amroth (and of course Nimrodel.) I"d like Mellonin to come too (better for the ending I had in mind.) Somebody's got to dream Imrazor and Mithrellas. Have we managed to separate Mellonin from everyone who could connect Avarien's comminication with Nimrodel, and get that over to Mellondu-- or Erebemlin? Amroth would cheerfully resurface, given some hope about Nimrodel; it would be a tussle with Mellondu, I'd have to ponder that a bit. End ramble. Did I answer any questions? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

09-14-2007, 10:31 PM	#3
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Hey Immy! Dreams, good, I like it. SO Gwyllion 'walks' with the White Mountains group but reports to Aeron via dreams? Okay. Going over the mountains: right now we've got Ravion, Liornung, Bella, Leafa, and Ædegard, with Avarien/Mellonin, and Saethryd and Jorje all at the hut. Periphery: Roheryn and Rudh. Who turns around to go back, who stays at Saethryd's hut, and who crosses the mountain path? I had envisioned Avarien/Mellonin crossing over the mountains, but she won't make it all on her own-- especially with her injury (how bad is it?) Although Roheryn will be a big help, he'll have a struggle at the icier parts near the top. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

09-15-2007, 03:31 AM	#6
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	I took the liberty of going ahead with the post. If it is unsatisfactory let me know and I shall edit accordingly. I was also re-reading (or skimming rather), this discussion thread, just to re-oil the gears as it were, and I came across the thoughts for Aedegard, specifically the dream in which he gets himself killed but then when he wakes up he goes with Leafa. Was that still going to happen, or is there a new plan in place? __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

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09-15-2007, 06:11 AM	#7
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	That's an amazing post, Immy! Ædegard and Leafa are leaving the story. Unless Bellyn's writer comes back to us, she will leave the story....unless Nuru is willing to take her up. Helen, if you're back now, then Ravion can stay because you can carry him. And you're the writer for Mellonin and Mellondu, so they stay. Erebemlin has lost his writer. However, if he's the ONLY character that doesn't have a writer, anyone who wishes to can fill him in; the only problem is that Alak would do a better job, including the Marigold connection. Frustrating. Liornung's writer is still around, although she has not yet written a post. My earlier thought, before you returned, Helen, was that Mellondu could be killed and Amroth switch to being hosted by Bergil, whose writer is still with us, but that won't be necessary now. Nevertheless, Tharonwë sees an obvious strategy in trying to permanently get rid of the black smith. Remember, the Elf has learned how to use his mental abilities to put people in trances so that they do what he wants them to. I just can't remember the word for either ability off hand.