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Old 09-08-2007, 09:55 AM   #1
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I'm fascinated by my immediate thought regarding this question. Every face, sans one, that comes to mind in this scenario is that of someone exceptionally maternal (and undeniably female).

When i am thinking about this questions all the faces, which come to my mind (but one), are male. I am male myself. May be that is why.

Now one of this one is really Sam, but i think some are Sam-like in a way or another. (actually Sam can be very narrowminded sometimes, i am happy my friends are not like that. I guess Sam would hate me)

I have (used to have) a good friend. His name is Christian. (I am from Germany, this name is very common over here, i am just telling you because people from other countries always think his name is odd). My name is Christopher. So people called us big Chris and little Chris. I was little Chris. Actually i am one year his senior.. but people always think he is the older one.

however the very first day he saw me big one planned to adopt me. I did not know that back then. I had just moved to another place and it was my first day in the new school. I was scared, i missed my old home. Somehow that evoked his "maternal" instincts.

He came to me smiled at me showed me his trading carrds (back then boys in my country used to trade cards of soccer players) and he let me chose the most beautiful card and gave it to me.

I always hated the bread i had in my lunch box, so i always threw it away and we always shared his.

He married very very young, started his own business (a party service). His wife is pregnant withg his fourth kid now. I on the other hand was fired from two different jobs. Went to college and i am now in the process of earning a degree similiar to your masters degree. We do not see regular anymore... but when we do he still is feeding me. He always brings some food when he visits. As if i did not have any food of my own... and he always goes "do you sleep enough? do you eat enough? You look/tired/pale/cold/frightened/(...)/fill in the blank. " Actually i LIKE this. Other people would hate this, but i like it.

Then there is another friend of mine. His name is Titus. He always cheers me up, when i have a sad moment. Actually you cannot be with him for more then half an hour and still feel sad. He is just to happy and cheerful and brave himself. Wehenever i told him there was no hope (for whatever reason) he made a stupid joke about it. I do not know why, but that helped me a lot. When i am alone i sometimes feel hurt to the core and hopeless and depressed and i am taking m,yself very serious then. Think about suicide... i am taking myself to serious. when i am with him there is nothing serious and that makes me feel better.

And i am thinking of my aunt and uncle. I live with them and they love me and spoil me and thread me like a kiddie. I am a grown up man now. But they still bake a cake for my birthday, my auntie still scolds me when i go out without my jacket on a cold day.

writing this lines i think that may be i am not grown up enough. However. i am happy and thankful for my Sams.

but however... i think a real Sam would not like me. To his mind i would be an odd person.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:35 AM   #2
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Great thread idea alatar. There's actually 2 that come to mind.

First is my sister who's more like my doctor, looking out for my health and well-being. 'Have you taken your plavix today?' 'You know the doctor told you no more coffee. If you have a heart attack thats your own fault.' Or if I'm pushing myself too much, trying to do too much, she's always the one to make sure I have some relaxing time for myself. The 'You go and rest, I'll take care of this' type. I do get annoyed, since I'm a stubborn jack, and it's annoying having someone standing over you saying 'No, you can't do this...you can't eat that...etc' But I realize she just doesn't want anything bad to happen to me. And since I don't look after my health, I greatly appreciate my sister who has the patience to put up with it.

My other Sam, was a friend I met in college. And she's been my closest friend for...oh man probably 17-18 years now. It's hard to explain the friendship, because we are very intense, and when we are together we often have bad sailor mouths. So, it's really hard to get the full effect without using the proper 'adjectives.' But, I will edit myself and try to explain it as best as I can.

Classic example, we are both very competitive over our guitar hero, especially in 'face off mode.' I'm surprised she hasn't taken the cordless one and smashed it over my head, and she's probably just as surprised that I haven't taken the one with the cord and strangled her.

But, the thing I value most about our friendship is the honesty. Even though it can be brutal sometimes, and sometimes we really don't want to be told the truth. The bottomline is, it's the best, and probably why we've had such a close friendship all these years. Because we both know, if one of us is doing something wrong, the other is going to say so. We ask eachother all the time 'Am I making a mistake?' 'Have I done anything wrong?' And with those questions we can get brutally honest, but neither of us believe in beating around the bush or feeding eachother crap to step through, and I value that the most.

It's interesting that Sam is actually Frodo's servant, yet Sam is so willingly. He doesn't mind being the 'servant' and calling Frodo 'Master,' beacuse he truly does love his Master.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:47 AM   #3
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Great thread idea alatar. There's actually 2 that come to mind.

First is my sister who's more like my doctor, looking out for my health and well-being. 'Have you taken your plavix today?' 'You know the doctor told you no more coffee. If you have a heart attack thats your own fault.' Or if I'm pushing myself too much, trying to do too much, she's always the one to make sure I have some relaxing time for myself. The 'You go and rest, I'll take care of this' type. I do get annoyed, since I'm a stubborn jack, and it's annoying having someone standing over you saying 'No, you can't do this...you can't eat that...etc' But I realize she just doesn't want anything bad to happen to me. And since I don't look after my health, I greatly appreciate my sister who has the patience to put up with it.

It's interesting that Sam is actually Frodo's servant, yet Sam is so willingly. He doesn't mind being the 'servant' and calling Frodo 'Master,' because he truly does love his Master.
Do you have trouble with your heart then?

I have asked myself why Sam, calls Frodo master. I would not call him master anymore (i never called anyone master in my life....)
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Old 09-08-2007, 12:14 PM   #4
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Aye, I think it's more with genetics, but my doctor just had to say 'lay off the caffeine.' Anyway, my grandpa, my father, and his brother have all had bad blood pressure and a little while ago I had some trouble with that.


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Sam was at first Bilbo's servant, and then when Bilbo leaves everything to Frodo, this means Sam now becomes Frodo's servant. So, you'll notice that Sam calls Frodo always 'Mr. Frodo' or 'Master.' What's really interesting is Gollum actually calls Frodo 'Master' as well.

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Old 09-18-2007, 01:40 PM   #5
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Aye, I think it's more with genetics, but my doctor just had to say 'lay off the caffeine.' Anyway, my grandpa, my father, and his brother have all had bad blood pressure and a little while ago I had some trouble with that.



Sam was at first Bilbo's servant, and then when Bilbo leaves everything to Frodo, this means Sam now becomes Frodo's servant. So, you'll notice that Sam calls Frodo always 'Mr. Frodo' or 'Master.' What's really interesting is Gollum actually calls Frodo 'Master' as well.

Welcome to the 'Downs, enjoy!

I am sorry to hear about your blood pressure!

Still i do not understand why he has to call him "Master"... i used to work as a gardener a time ago. I never called my boss "Master"... ... but may be it was different "back then" (i know it is not a time that really existed... but i always think of all of this happening in another time).
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