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Old 08-21-2007, 08:59 AM   #1
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Rikae is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.Rikae is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.Rikae is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.
Now that might just explain the snow-walking! We've already discussed the spiritual properties of elves, but we completely overlooked the possibility that the mystical powers belonged, not to the elf himself, but rather to his footwear!

In which case, unless his jacket is similarly enlighted, elves can make snow angels.
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Old 08-22-2007, 12:10 AM   #2
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Light Shoes of Snow Walking + 2?
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:25 AM   #3
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Dont know if we've had this one, & I'm not sure it exactly belongs here, but checking the Thornton's Bookshop site I find this curious fact regarding Bilbo's Last Song:
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TOLKIEN, J.R.R., & DONALD SWANN Bilbo's Last Song
. Albert House Press, 1992, 4to sized paperback. 4 pages in black wrappers, page 5 is printed on the inside of the rear cover.
¶ Bilbo's Last Song is a poem by J.R.R. Tolkien. It was originally entitled "Bilbo's Last Lay", but this was later changed due to the obvious difficulties over the last word. It was given by Tolkien as a gift to his secretary Joy Hill in 1966. After Tolkien's death in 1973 Hill showed the poem to Donald Swann, who liked the poem so much that he set it to music.
GBP 25.00 [Appr.: EURO 37 US$ 49.38 | JP¥ 5860] Book number: F0193
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:29 AM   #4
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Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
Oh dear .. he was rather an innocent in some ways *cough* teleporno, shagrat *cough*
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:54 PM   #5
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:35 AM   #6
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Oh dear .. he was rather an innocent in some ways *cough* teleporno, shagrat *cough*
Well, he never gave us Lewdthien and Baren. Or Bear-in.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:23 AM   #7
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Well, he never gave us Lewdthien and Baren. Or Bear-in.
My theory is that he was too involved with the languages to realise the absurdity of some names or dubious meanings . .. I mean I am sorry but Tuna as a place name?

I know too well the pitfalls of teaching beginners german, the words for "go" and "father" are liable to cause mass hysteria among the young - mind you I was in a very serious and grown up choir which also suffered bouts of mass hysteria while rehearsing the Haydn "Stabat Mater"
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:53 AM   #8
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My theory is that he was too involved with the languages to realise the absurdity of some names or dubious meanings . .. I mean I am sorry but Tuna as a place name?
Its probably more complicated. Tolkien was (overly??) serious about his language creation, & couldn't simply change a single word or name without changing the structure, grammar, syntax &, er.... stuff of the whole language. Quenya & Sindarin were interconnected, & he couldn't change 'Teleporno' without also changing 'Celeborn', & if he'd changed the names he'd have had to change the meaning of the roots (oo er missus!).

The main reason Tolkien's languages are so convincing is that they aren't just collections of random syllables, but 'actual' languages, with their own rules. CT points out that he wouldn't simply invent a new word for one of his languages, but would have to work out the changes that word would have undergone over, potentially, thousands of years.

I can't help feeling that he would have been fully aware of the 'double meanings' ......
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