Middle Earth Fantasy Football World Cup - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

***Thenamir*** · 07-12-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom

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Originally Posted by SPM

That and the fact that I also have a mind to last year's form.

My fantasy team, of course, was purely based on last year's form, what with me being such a hugely competitive fellow 'n all.

Heh heh... you cheater.

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Originally Posted by The Phantom

They're cheats! Big fat prediction-ruining cheats!!

Methinks Phantom doth protest overmuch. See my post here.

arcticstorm · 07-12-2007, 08:39 PM

Sorry these are so late in coming.
All players have their current point values by their names in the original list.
Today's results

Moria
Oin –4
Ori – 4
Nar – 4
Celebrimbor – 4
Narvi – 1
Durin – 1
Durin’s Bane –1
Thror –-1
Watcher in the water—8

Valinor
Manwe –4
Aule—4
Yavanna –4
Lorien—4
Mandos –1
Orome –1
Pallando –1
Eonwe –1
Alatar—1
Varda—3

Tuna
Miriel –4
Maglor –4
Amrod –4
Amras –4
Caranthir –1
Ingwe –1
Finarfin –1
Fingolfin—4
Finwe—4
Finarfin—4
Madhros—7

Brethil
Dorlas— -1
Niniel—1
Haleth – -1
Brandir – -1
Dorlas – -1
Hunthor— -1

Tol Eressea
Vaire –4
Lindo –4
Osse –4
Olwe –4
Uinen –1
Indis –1
Eriol—5
Frodo—4

Dor Lomin
Turin—2

Barrow-downs
Firefoot – 4
Formendacil - 4
Glirdan – 4
Nogrod - 4
Arcticstorm – 1
The Phantom – 6
Feanor of the Peredhil –1
Barrow-wight—6
Rune son of Bjarne –4
Sleepy Ranger—3

Gondor
Damrod – -1
Denethor – -1
Beregond – -1
Imrahil – -1

arcticstorm · 07-12-2007, 10:36 PM

Finally the team standings after day 3

The Grinding Ice
Arcticstorm—1
Pallando—1
Total:6

The Fifth Wall
Nogrod—4
Oin—4
Total:8

Nogg’s ball
Nogrod—4
Manwë –4
Feanor of the Peredhil—1
Maedhros (tuna)—7
Total: 16

Saucepan (Un)Athletic
Manwe—4
the phantom—6
total: 10

Second Best
Glirdan—4
Aule—4
The Phantom—6
Durin's Bane—1
Sleepy Ranger—3
Total: 18

Elmo
Aule—4
Manwe—4
Orome—1
Sleepy Ranger—3
Rune Son of Bjarn—4
Total:16

Thenamir Untied
Watcher in the Water—8
FW—Frodo—4

The Reds
Fingolfin –4
Feanor of the Peredhil – 1
Rune Son of Bjarne – 4
Total: 9

Glirdan
GLIRDAN –4
SLEEPY RANGER—3
Total:7

Phantasy
MAEDHROS—7
THE PHANTOM—6
EONWE—1
MAGLOR—4
Total: 18

The Ka
Ulwe –4
Sleepy Ranger –3
Finwe –4
Total: 11

The Grinding Ice: 29 points
Second Best: 29 points
The Reds: 26 points
Phantasy:24
Elmo's Team: 22 points
Nogg's Ball: 22 points
Thenamir Untied: 19 points
The Fifth wall: 18 points
Saucepan (Un)Athletic: 18 Points
Ka’s Team: 14 points
Glirdan’s team: 12 points

the phantom · 07-12-2007, 11:04 PM

Question- why did Maedhros only earn me three points?

Didn't he have an assist (3), another assist (3), and hold the other team scoreless as a midfielder (1), and thus gain me 7 points?

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-13-2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Take Frodo's Ring trek. Sauron had no idea what the other team was trying to accomplish, and did not know where the ball (Ring) was. That does not happen on the soccer field.

No, but it is perfectly possible for a team to suffer at the hands of its own over-confidence, for example when faced with a team which it (wrongly) assumes to be inferior because its players are smaller, or because it believes its defence to be so impregnable that it commits forward too early and/or in greater numbers than is sensible.

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Originally Posted by the phantom

There is a clearly defined method of victory (putting the ball in the net) and the ball can only be put there in certain ways legally.

Of course, applying your literal approach to the skills, abilities and characteristics of the players involved would mean that no team would have any prospect of scoring against a team with a Dragon in goal. One should take a more imaginative, flexible and laterally-considered approach to the competiton, in my view.

***Thenamir*** · 07-13-2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SPM

Of course, applying your literal approach to the skills, abilities and characteristics of the players involved would mean that no team would have any prospect of scoring against a team with a Dragon in goal.

I dunno, Saucy. Look how well Watcher In The Water played for Moria yesterday!

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-13-2007, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Thenamir

Look how well Watcher In The Water played for Moria yesterday!

Well, the Watcher, clearly, is a naturally talented goalkeeper. But that doesn't mean that he's unbeatable.

In any event, applying a literal approach would require Moria only to play on pitches that had a large lake behind their goal ...

arcticstorm · 07-13-2007, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Question- why did Maedhros only earn me three points?

Didn't he have an assist (3), another assist (3), and hold the other team scoreless as a midfielder (1), and thus gain me 7 points?

You are right, Phantom, sorry about that. It is fixed on all posts.

Nogrod · 07-13-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by arcticstorm

You are right, Phantom, sorry about that. It is fixed on all posts.

Maybe you could then fix the same with Nogg's Ball as my Maedhros has only brought me the three points instead of seven?

arcticstorm · 07-13-2007, 09:35 PM

OK hopefully everything is fixed now, if anyone sees any more mistakes I inadvertantly make,let me know either on here or through a pm.

anyway, today's matches were rather low on the points scale and at least one keeper was left at 0 points because of the lack of shots to save. here are today's points, and hopefully they are correct this time.

Niggle's Parish
Inspector—3
Atkins –5
Niggle—-1
Mrs. Parish— -2
1stVoice— -2
2nd Voice— -2
Porter— -2

Nargothrond
Mormegil—14
Felagund—10
Gundor—3

Fangorn
Skinbark –6
Treebeard—3

Old Grey Hill
Guest –4

Gondolin
Ecthelion—2
Turgon –5
Hurin—5
Glorfindel—3

Wooton Major
Fairy Queen—5
Ned—3
Smith— -1
Chief Cook— -1
Art— -1
Harper— -1
Nell— -1

Doriath
Mablung—6
Beren—4
Luthien—4
Thingol—4
Dior—1
Beleg—1
Melian—4

Arnor
Halbard— -1
Elendil— -1
Argeleb— -1
Isildur— -1

07-12-2007, 08:39 PM	#2
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	Sorry these are so late in coming. All players have their current point values by their names in the original list. Today's results Moria Oin –4 Ori – 4 Nar – 4 Celebrimbor – 4 Narvi – 1 Durin – 1 Durin’s Bane –1 Thror –-1 Watcher in the water—8 Valinor Manwe –4 Aule—4 Yavanna –4 Lorien—4 Mandos –1 Orome –1 Pallando –1 Eonwe –1 Alatar—1 Varda—3 Tuna Miriel –4 Maglor –4 Amrod –4 Amras –4 Caranthir –1 Ingwe –1 Finarfin –1 Fingolfin—4 Finwe—4 Finarfin—4 Madhros—7 Brethil Dorlas— -1 Niniel—1 Haleth – -1 Brandir – -1 Dorlas – -1 Hunthor— -1 Tol Eressea Vaire –4 Lindo –4 Osse –4 Olwe –4 Uinen –1 Indis –1 Eriol—5 Frodo—4 Dor Lomin Turin—2 Barrow-downs Firefoot – 4 Formendacil - 4 Glirdan – 4 Nogrod - 4 Arcticstorm – 1 The Phantom – 6 Feanor of the Peredhil –1 Barrow-wight—6 Rune son of Bjarne –4 Sleepy Ranger—3 Gondor Damrod – -1 Denethor – -1 Beregond – -1 Imrahil – -1 Last edited by arcticstorm; 07-13-2007 at 08:02 AM.

07-12-2007, 10:36 PM	#3
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	Finally the team standings after day 3 The Grinding Ice Arcticstorm—1 Pallando—1 Total:6 The Fifth Wall Nogrod—4 Oin—4 Total:8 Nogg’s ball Nogrod—4 Manwë –4 Feanor of the Peredhil—1 Maedhros (tuna)—7 Total: 16 Saucepan (Un)Athletic Manwe—4 the phantom—6 total: 10 Second Best Glirdan—4 Aule—4 The Phantom—6 Durin's Bane—1 Sleepy Ranger—3 Total: 18 Elmo Aule—4 Manwe—4 Orome—1 Sleepy Ranger—3 Rune Son of Bjarn—4 Total:16 Thenamir Untied Watcher in the Water—8 FW—Frodo—4 The Reds Fingolfin –4 Feanor of the Peredhil – 1 Rune Son of Bjarne – 4 Total: 9 Glirdan GLIRDAN –4 SLEEPY RANGER—3 Total:7 Phantasy MAEDHROS—7 THE PHANTOM—6 EONWE—1 MAGLOR—4 Total: 18 The Ka Ulwe –4 Sleepy Ranger –3 Finwe –4 Total: 11 The Grinding Ice: 29 points Second Best: 29 points The Reds: 26 points Phantasy:24 Elmo's Team: 22 points Nogg's Ball: 22 points Thenamir Untied: 19 points The Fifth wall: 18 points Saucepan (Un)Athletic: 18 Points Ka’s Team: 14 points Glirdan’s team: 12 points Last edited by arcticstorm; 07-13-2007 at 03:03 PM.

07-12-2007, 11:04 PM	#4
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Question- why did Maedhros only earn me three points? Didn't he have an assist (3), another assist (3), and hold the other team scoreless as a midfielder (1), and thus gain me 7 points? __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

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07-13-2007, 09:35 PM	#10
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	OK hopefully everything is fixed now, if anyone sees any more mistakes I inadvertantly make,let me know either on here or through a pm. anyway, today's matches were rather low on the points scale and at least one keeper was left at 0 points because of the lack of shots to save. here are today's points, and hopefully they are correct this time. Niggle's Parish Inspector—3 Atkins –5 Niggle—-1 Mrs. Parish— -2 1stVoice— -2 2nd Voice— -2 Porter— -2 Nargothrond Mormegil—14 Felagund—10 Gundor—3 Fangorn Skinbark –6 Treebeard—3 Old Grey Hill Guest –4 Gondolin Ecthelion—2 Turgon –5 Hurin—5 Glorfindel—3 Wooton Major Fairy Queen—5 Ned—3 Smith— -1 Chief Cook— -1 Art— -1 Harper— -1 Nell— -1 Doriath Mablung—6 Beren—4 Luthien—4 Thingol—4 Dior—1 Beleg—1 Melian—4 Arnor Halbard— -1 Elendil— -1 Argeleb— -1 Isildur— -1