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The Sixth Wizard · 07-11-2007, 07:03 AM

Well, evidently if he had been so listed, The Sixth Wizard would have stormed the competition, being the only one with a definite article as part of his title. Of course, this would be massively tipped in the aforementioned's favour, thus his exclusion from this particular contest. I'll get you back for this, Guardian Unlimited!

I think I prefer Merlin as a wizard stereotype.

Between Gandalf and Dumbledore it's tough to choose; whenever one appears on the scene of action, you are uplifted, knowing (or thinking) it's going to be okay; whenever they speak, you know you are talking to an elder and better, a teacher but not a peer however friendly they are; we know each is not perfect (Gandalf makes the 'mistake' of tackling Moria and makes others, Dumbledore procrastinates) but has the right intentions ... I also saw that Gandalf frightened Gollum with fire and Dumbledore threatened Kreacher the same way, though neither wanted to... Okay I'm rambling now.

(flips coin) Gandalf for not being a nutter!

The Sixth Wizard · 07-11-2007, 07:06 AM

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- He is a human. Gandalf is a Maia. Dumbledore therefore feels that much more accessible and all of that.

Actually I find Gandalf more accessible, mainly because he can just sit down with the hobbits and have a smoke and a chat, whereas Dumbledore certainly can't with Harry etc.

Lindale · 07-11-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sixth Wizard

I think I prefer Merlin as a wizard stereotype.

Yup. Merlin is the wizard, unless some archeologist literati discovers an even older wizard stereotype. I mean, where would Gandalf and Dumbledore be without Merlin? Of course being Gandalf or Albus would have perks, say that their authors have had more stereotypes and archetypes known, and that they've had a bit of those. Gandalf had some of the hero archetype in him, like teh reluctance to go to the quest and stuff like that.

(Throw something at me now, I'm not British, not even Western!

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Kitanna · 07-11-2007, 11:03 PM

I find it rather upsetting Merlin placed so low. Behind Harry Potter? What is that all about? I can understand Merlin following Dumbledore, but Harry Potter?

As far as the stereotype for wizards go I believe Merlin and Gandalf embody it. Both come from a time and place filled with elves and dragons and guiding kings to the throne. And though Harry Potter has dragons and such, it takes place in the present. Sort of destroying the whole magic of a land so far away, knowing that Harry came from our world and often returns. But the real point is without the legendary wizarding efforts of Merlin the whole stereotype would not exist and Gandalf, Dumbledore, and Potter would never have a chance. The Wizard from Oz might, but only because he was just some guy from Kansas who had no idea how to pilot a balloon.

MatthewM · 07-11-2007, 11:23 PM

I would just like to say that although I have never read any Harry Potter books, I like the movies, and although I have no idea what happened in the books, in this latest movie (The Order of the Phoenix) Dumbledore impressed me a lot. His power was shown in a much greater scale than I thought he possessed.

Still, he has nothing on Gandalf!

Knight of Gondor · 07-12-2007, 05:55 AM

Oh yeessss!

MatthewM · 07-12-2007, 08:41 AM

Haha!

***Thenamir*** · 07-12-2007, 09:04 AM

What?! Radagast didn't even place? What about Saruman? And the recently-departed Don Herbert, aka "Mr. Wizard"? This is a travesty!

07-11-2007, 07:03 AM	#1
The Sixth Wizard Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stuck under a rock in Valinor with Ar-Pharazon. Posts: 480	The REAL Winner... Well, evidently if he had been so listed, The Sixth Wizard would have stormed the competition, being the only one with a definite article as part of his title. Of course, this would be massively tipped in the aforementioned's favour, thus his exclusion from this particular contest. I'll get you back for this, Guardian Unlimited! I think I prefer Merlin as a wizard stereotype. Between Gandalf and Dumbledore it's tough to choose; whenever one appears on the scene of action, you are uplifted, knowing (or thinking) it's going to be okay; whenever they speak, you know you are talking to an elder and better, a teacher but not a peer however friendly they are; we know each is not perfect (Gandalf makes the 'mistake' of tackling Moria and makes others, Dumbledore procrastinates) but has the right intentions ... I also saw that Gandalf frightened Gollum with fire and Dumbledore threatened Kreacher the same way, though neither wanted to... Okay I'm rambling now. (flips coin) Gandalf for not being a nutter!

07-11-2007, 11:03 PM	#4
Kitanna Child of the West Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn Posts: 2,132	I find it rather upsetting Merlin placed so low. Behind Harry Potter? What is that all about? I can understand Merlin following Dumbledore, but Harry Potter? As far as the stereotype for wizards go I believe Merlin and Gandalf embody it. Both come from a time and place filled with elves and dragons and guiding kings to the throne. And though Harry Potter has dragons and such, it takes place in the present. Sort of destroying the whole magic of a land so far away, knowing that Harry came from our world and often returns. But the real point is without the legendary wizarding efforts of Merlin the whole stereotype would not exist and Gandalf, Dumbledore, and Potter would never have a chance. The Wizard from Oz might, but only because he was just some guy from Kansas who had no idea how to pilot a balloon. __________________ "Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

07-11-2007, 11:23 PM	#5
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	I would just like to say that although I have never read any Harry Potter books, I like the movies, and although I have no idea what happened in the books, in this latest movie (The Order of the Phoenix) Dumbledore impressed me a lot. His power was shown in a much greater scale than I thought he possessed. Still, he has nothing on Gandalf! __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

07-12-2007, 05:55 AM	#6
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	Oh yeessss! __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

07-12-2007, 08:41 AM	#7
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	Haha! __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

07-12-2007, 09:04 AM	#8
*Thenamir* Spectre of Capitalism Join Date: May 2001 Location: Battling evil bureaucrats at Zeta Aquilae Posts: 987	Outrage! What?! Radagast didn't even place? What about Saruman? And the recently-departed Don Herbert, aka "Mr. Wizard"? This is a travesty! __________________ The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~~ Marcus Aurelius

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