The Fellowship of the Fourth Age (Part 1): A New Beginning Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 07-04-2007, 10:53 AM

I posted for Gwerr and the other orcs first as Regin was online and had a tied schedule.

What I had in mind was that the orcs might have something interesting to post while the meeting of the fellowship & the slaves goes on and we wait for the female-orcs to come to pledge for the male-orcs lives.

So I'm not suggesting the male-orcs could actually manage the charge. That would inevitably lead to deaths and to the impossibility of uniting the two sides.

But is it now a deal that there will be a flood of sorts putting both human and orc children to a risk? If it is, we should then think about the order of posting a bit. The slaves & the f-s will discuss their future and the fate of the orcs while the male-orcs climb up and finally get to listen to what happens outside the door (unfortunately for them the meeting is taking place in front of the pit so they can't charge straight away as everyone's there). Then we need the children going to dangerous places and the females to come forwards with their pleas, right?

And then the flooding and the children in despair?

What follows then should perhaps be discussed... or if I am wrong, please bring me back to the present general idea about how we proceed.

PS. Child: Let me know if I have mishandled Makdush. I will naturally change everything you suggest should be changed.

Nogrod · 07-04-2007, 12:28 PM

Hadith's post is in too. Nice to be back.

Tevildo: should you consider removing your save when you will actually fill it as I have not been able to pay heed to what your characters were about to say as there was no information on that? So as Hadith has already spoken your characters should speak after him in the thread?

Hilde Bracegirdle · 07-04-2007, 07:51 PM

So sorry to be late in getting Carl's save filled, but it up there now. Haven't been able to read the last few entries, but it is nice to see things moving again. I'll be playing catch up with my reading at lunch tomorrow I should think.

Regin Hardhammer · 07-04-2007, 10:38 PM

Save filled. I tried to give a lead in for more water seeping into the pit.

If I understand things right, the orcs will have to leave before the kids can come in and get stuck there. Isn't that right?

Tevildo · 07-04-2007, 11:16 PM

Nogrod - I think you're right about my save. I pushed it forward.

Regin - Thanks for doing a set up for the rising water. I understood that the orcs would be out of the pit when the kids went in and got in trouble. What you and Nogrod are doing will work fine with me.

This is what I'm thinking of, unless someone would like to add other ideas. I'll have Azhar wander off with the kids but they will first play around on the banks of the stream. Azhar will have her hands full keeping them away from the rising water. After the orcs get out of the pit (whether they are dragged out or come rushing out), the kids will pester here to have a look inside. She'll figure it's better than the rising bank of the stream where the kids might fall in. And she's very familiar with the cave since she spent so much time there. Of couse, what she doesn't is know how bad it's going to get inside the pit when those rocks give way.....

BTW, could one of the orcs leave that rope nearby so it will be eaiser to climb down into the pit/cave?

Child of the 7th Age · 07-05-2007, 11:43 AM

Glad to see the game going forward. I definitely have no problem with the orcs kicking up a ruckus as long as no one gets seriously injured or killed. In fact, Makdush will be glad to join in the ruckus. As long as the orcs leave the pit one way or another before Azhar brings the children in and the water breaks through the rock "plug", that will work fine. Perhaps, the orcs will put up a fight but will be overwhelmed, rebound, and dragged out to "hear the sentence"? My assumption was that, even with the plea of the women and Aiwendil's warning of danger, the vote will go against them. It's only the danger the children are in and the help they give each other that suggests some limited cooperation is possible.

BTW, from the looks of some posts on other threads, a number of posters are having trouble giving rep and anything involved with clicking links....the links just don't come up. If anyone has that problem, just right click and open the link in a new window.

Nogrod · 07-05-2007, 03:39 PM

Let's consider this a bit.

The situation now:
The ex-slaves and the FS are having a meeting in front of the pit about what to do with the orcs and the possible threat of the Olog-hai. At the same time the orcs are getting free down in the pit and will make a pyramide to get one up to the door and throw ropes to others to climb up as well.

Where we need to get:
The pit must be empty for the children to get there in the first place so the orcs need to be out from there. And still everyone (orcs & the goodies) need to be near enough to hear the children's distress. And the female orcs need to be in place as well...

So how do we achieve this?

One suggestion to follow. Please make other suggestions...

The male orcs reach the top and listen behind the door while the people discuss. Then the female orcs (and orc-children) come forwards and plead for the males. After some harsh words come from the ranks of men ("more of these beasts, let's kill them once and for all as they seem to spawn from all over the place before it's too late", or something) the males burst the door open and get ready to defend the females. Maybe they'd run to stand by the females (hoping surely that the females would have arms to give them as they only have Makdush' blade with them).

That way we could create space in front of the doorway to the pit so that both the orc and human children could slip inside and use the ropes left by the orcs to get down. There would be some heated words thrown over both sides so that no one would notice the children sneaking down to the pit.

Then there would be the calls for help from the pit and everyone rushing to their aid...

Other ideas?

07-04-2007, 10:53 AM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I posted for Gwerr and the other orcs first as Regin was online and had a tied schedule. What I had in mind was that the orcs might have something interesting to post while the meeting of the fellowship & the slaves goes on and we wait for the female-orcs to come to pledge for the male-orcs lives. So I'm not suggesting the male-orcs could actually manage the charge. That would inevitably lead to deaths and to the impossibility of uniting the two sides. But is it now a deal that there will be a flood of sorts putting both human and orc children to a risk? If it is, we should then think about the order of posting a bit. The slaves & the f-s will discuss their future and the fate of the orcs while the male-orcs climb up and finally get to listen to what happens outside the door (unfortunately for them the meeting is taking place in front of the pit so they can't charge straight away as everyone's there). Then we need the children going to dangerous places and the females to come forwards with their pleas, right? And then the flooding and the children in despair? What follows then should perhaps be discussed... or if I am wrong, please bring me back to the present general idea about how we proceed. PS. Child: Let me know if I have mishandled Makdush. I will naturally change everything you suggest should be changed. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

07-04-2007, 12:28 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Hadith's post is in too. Nice to be back. Tevildo: should you consider removing your save when you will actually fill it as I have not been able to pay heed to what your characters were about to say as there was no information on that? So as Hadith has already spoken your characters should speak after him in the thread? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

07-04-2007, 10:38 PM	#4
Regin Hardhammer Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tumunzahar/Nogrod Posts: 364	Save filled. I tried to give a lead in for more water seeping into the pit. If I understand things right, the orcs will have to leave before the kids can come in and get stuck there. Isn't that right? __________________ For once I myself saw with my own eyes the Sibyl at Cumae hanging in a bottle, and when the boys said to her: 'Sibyl, what do you want?' she replied, 'I want to die.'"

07-04-2007, 11:16 PM	#5
Tevildo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Curled up on Melko's lap Posts: 425	Nogrod - I think you're right about my save. I pushed it forward. Regin - Thanks for doing a set up for the rising water. I understood that the orcs would be out of the pit when the kids went in and got in trouble. What you and Nogrod are doing will work fine with me. This is what I'm thinking of, unless someone would like to add other ideas. I'll have Azhar wander off with the kids but they will first play around on the banks of the stream. Azhar will have her hands full keeping them away from the rising water. After the orcs get out of the pit (whether they are dragged out or come rushing out), the kids will pester here to have a look inside. She'll figure it's better than the rising bank of the stream where the kids might fall in. And she's very familiar with the cave since she spent so much time there. Of couse, what she doesn't is know how bad it's going to get inside the pit when those rocks give way..... BTW, could one of the orcs leave that rope nearby so it will be eaiser to climb down into the pit/cave? __________________ Now Tevildo was a mighty cat--the mightiest of all--and possessed of an evil spirit,...and he was in Melko's constant following; and that cat had all cats subject to him, and he and his subjects were the chasers and getters of meat for Melko's table.

07-05-2007, 11:43 AM	#6
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Glad to see the game going forward. I definitely have no problem with the orcs kicking up a ruckus as long as no one gets seriously injured or killed. In fact, Makdush will be glad to join in the ruckus. As long as the orcs leave the pit one way or another before Azhar brings the children in and the water breaks through the rock "plug", that will work fine. Perhaps, the orcs will put up a fight but will be overwhelmed, rebound, and dragged out to "hear the sentence"? My assumption was that, even with the plea of the women and Aiwendil's warning of danger, the vote will go against them. It's only the danger the children are in and the help they give each other that suggests some limited cooperation is possible. BTW, from the looks of some posts on other threads, a number of posters are having trouble giving rep and anything involved with clicking links....the links just don't come up. If anyone has that problem, just right click and open the link in a new window. __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote. Last edited by Child of the 7th Age; 07-05-2007 at 11:52 AM.

07-04-2007, 07:51 PM	#3
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	So sorry to be late in getting Carl's save filled, but it up there now. Haven't been able to read the last few entries, but it is nice to see things moving again. I'll be playing catch up with my reading at lunch tomorrow I should think.

07-05-2007, 03:39 PM	#7
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Let's consider this a bit. The situation now: The ex-slaves and the FS are having a meeting in front of the pit about what to do with the orcs and the possible threat of the Olog-hai. At the same time the orcs are getting free down in the pit and will make a pyramide to get one up to the door and throw ropes to others to climb up as well. Where we need to get: The pit must be empty for the children to get there in the first place so the orcs need to be out from there. And still everyone (orcs & the goodies) need to be near enough to hear the children's distress. And the female orcs need to be in place as well... So how do we achieve this? One suggestion to follow. Please make other suggestions... The male orcs reach the top and listen behind the door while the people discuss. Then the female orcs (and orc-children) come forwards and plead for the males. After some harsh words come from the ranks of men ("more of these beasts, let's kill them once and for all as they seem to spawn from all over the place before it's too late", or something) the males burst the door open and get ready to defend the females. Maybe they'd run to stand by the females (hoping surely that the females would have arms to give them as they only have Makdush' blade with them). That way we could create space in front of the doorway to the pit so that both the orc and human children could slip inside and use the ropes left by the orcs to get down. There would be some heated words thrown over both sides so that no one would notice the children sneaking down to the pit. Then there would be the calls for help from the pit and everyone rushing to their aid... Other ideas? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

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