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Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-05-2007, 03:52 PM

Beleg? *cough* Well, he ultimately did "avenge" him, but Isildur surely didn't kill himself, you know. Sort of mixing apples and oranges here (uh? Which one is what, I wonder?). So, no. But I hope this chain of thoughts might hit someone with posing himself the right question.

Beanamir of Gondor · 06-14-2007, 07:24 PM

Okey doke, this might be a little bit of a stretch. But in both cases a v. important sword was involved, and everyone involved died. Hopefully this is at least the right scenario, and I've just picked the wrong characters...

Gil-Galad and Elendil died fighting Sauron, whom Isildur managed to destroy. (Elendil just happened to be Isildur's father.)

Meanwhile,

Hunthor and Nienor died fighting Glaurung, whom Turin managed to destroy. (Nienor just happened to be Turin's sister.)

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-15-2007, 04:35 AM

Okay. Take the thread, please.

From the beginning I was looking for Hunthor, who was Túrin's companion in the final battle with Glaurung, but died. The same happened in the "kill Sauron" scenario: only Isildur survived, and he was the one who killed Sauron.

I would accept Dorlas as the second answer as well. But the main thing was about Hunthor.

The Might · 06-15-2007, 06:23 AM

Hmm...I was thinking about that, but didn't think about Hunthor.

Shards of Narsil · 06-15-2007, 12:23 PM

I had Hunthor in my head and thought it would fit, but for some reason didn't post. Probably because Legate was laughing at me.

Any way, good job Beanamir!

Beanamir of Gondor · 06-16-2007, 09:15 AM

Wow, I can't believe Hunthor was the right answer. Good riddle, Legate!
Okay, this one is probably pretty easy. It might require explanation, though.

Frodo is to Grishnakh

as

Beren is to ________

FeRaL sHaDoW · 06-17-2007, 02:31 AM

is it

Frodo is to Grishnakh

as

Beren is to Morgoth

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-17-2007, 11:24 AM

Or even Carcharoth could be that. But I think Sauron is more correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shards of Narsil

I had Hunthor in my head and thought it would fit, but for some reason didn't post. Probably because Legate was laughing at me.

Oh, when? Sorry if it ever seemed like that, but I don't remember any such occassion!

Beanamir of Gondor · 06-17-2007, 05:16 PM

Good thinking with Sauron, though if that were my line of reasoning, I probably would prefer Morgoth, just because Grishnakh is so incredibly inferior to Sauron as a servant of evil.

Coincidentally, Legate, Carcaroth is who I was looking for: but that wasn't the reason why. Think less specifically of Frodo's personal relation to Grishnakh...

06-05-2007, 03:52 PM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Beleg? cough Well, he ultimately did "avenge" him, but Isildur surely didn't kill himself, you know. Sort of mixing apples and oranges here (uh? Which one is what, I wonder?). So, no. But I hope this chain of thoughts might hit someone with posing himself the right question. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-14-2007, 07:24 PM	#2
Beanamir of Gondor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: the Shadow Gallery Posts: 276	I think I've read "Of Turin Turambar" fifty times now Okey doke, this might be a little bit of a stretch. But in both cases a v. important sword was involved, and everyone involved died. Hopefully this is at least the right scenario, and I've just picked the wrong characters... Gil-Galad and Elendil died fighting Sauron, whom Isildur managed to destroy. (Elendil just happened to be Isildur's father.) Meanwhile, Hunthor and Nienor died fighting Glaurung, whom Turin managed to destroy. (Nienor just happened to be Turin's sister.) __________________ The answer to life is no longer 42. It's 4 8 15 16 23... 42. "I only lent you my body; you lent me your dream."

06-15-2007, 04:35 AM	#3
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Finally... Okay. Take the thread, please. From the beginning I was looking for Hunthor, who was Túrin's companion in the final battle with Glaurung, but died. The same happened in the "kill Sauron" scenario: only Isildur survived, and he was the one who killed Sauron. I would accept Dorlas as the second answer as well. But the main thing was about Hunthor. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-15-2007, 06:23 AM	#4
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Hmm...I was thinking about that, but didn't think about Hunthor. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

06-15-2007, 12:23 PM	#5
Shards of Narsil Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 33	I knew it! I had Hunthor in my head and thought it would fit, but for some reason didn't post. Probably because Legate was laughing at me. Any way, good job Beanamir!

06-16-2007, 09:15 AM	#6
Beanamir of Gondor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: the Shadow Gallery Posts: 276	Thankee, Shards! Wow, I can't believe Hunthor was the right answer. Good riddle, Legate! Okay, this one is probably pretty easy. It might require explanation, though. Frodo is to Grishnakh as Beren is to ________ __________________ The answer to life is no longer 42. It's 4 8 15 16 23... 42. "I only lent you my body; you lent me your dream."

06-17-2007, 02:31 AM	#7
FeRaL sHaDoW Wight Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 232	is it Frodo is to Grishnakh as Beren is to Morgoth __________________ God created night, but man created darkness....

06-17-2007, 05:16 PM	#9
Beanamir of Gondor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: the Shadow Gallery Posts: 276	Good thinking with Sauron, though if that were my line of reasoning, I probably would prefer Morgoth, just because Grishnakh is so incredibly inferior to Sauron as a servant of evil. Coincidentally, Legate, Carcaroth is who I was looking for: but that wasn't the reason why. Think less specifically of Frodo's personal relation to Grishnakh... __________________ The answer to life is no longer 42. It's 4 8 15 16 23... 42. "I only lent you my body; you lent me your dream."

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