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View Poll Results: Punctuation Slapdown 2007
. 2 10.00%
? 5 25.00%
?! 4 20.00%
... 1 5.00%
$ 0 0%
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£ 2 10.00%
~ 3 15.00%
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3 15.00%
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:51 AM   #1
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TM, you can delete your own posts. Just click on the "edit" icon in the post you want to delete, then check "delete message", then click on the "delete this message" box.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:23 AM   #2
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Seeing as The Might's post is the only one that is worthy of staying, why delete it?
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:40 AM   #3
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Finduilas, he asked a moderator to delete it; my reply was simply to give him the responsibility himself - if he thinks it should be deleted, he can do so himself. I do not think it needs to be deleted, but each member can choose what s/he wishes to happen to her/his own posts.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:59 AM   #4
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Obviously, Finduilas, you have not been here long enough to appreciate the finer points of the fluff and frippery in which we occasionally engage ourselves.

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While Eomer's contribution conveys a piquant sense of loss, while at the same time expressing a sense of hope that answers may yet be found, your addition of the "!" exaggerates the essential tone of the original statement by introducing a sense of bravado, outrage even, which punctuates the fragile mystery and thus brings the poignancy of the moment crashing brutally down in an exclamatory cacophony of despair.
Indeed, SpM, i was caught up in the exuberance of the moment, and perhaps my excesses can be forgiven. However, my “!” proceeded not from a sense of outrage, but rather a vehement agreement with Eomer’s initial sortie.

And while our dear Bb is to be commended for her proper amendations to my initial criticisms, I would suggest that perhaps a further amendment of her opening gambit, from “.” to perhaps a softer “…” might have stayed my perhaps overcritical mal mot. As can plainly be seen if viewed in context, “…” could have been taken as an implicit “?”, leaving open the possibility of concepts unspoken to the imaginations of the reader, even of a grand denouement left hidden, hanging in a deft display of a kind of authorial “cliff hanger”, as it were.

Nevertheless, I believe it can be demonstrated that the asymmetrical nature of “?”, appearing as it does unbalanced and almost ready to topple, provides a more succinct expression than “…”, but that either is quite superior to the “.”.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:48 AM   #5
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No, actually I never intended to, I believed that it would be taken as an ironical remark and not a true wish, though I seem to have been wrong.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:59 AM   #6
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Alright. Point taken to heart.

Doesn't this thread belong in the Mirth area? Just asking, so please don't snap my head off


P.S. That "snap my head off" wasn't meant as disrespect to any moderator, or anyone who has told me I was wrong.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:02 AM   #7
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Tolkien A puntilious bit of rampunctious reply

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. . . As can plainly be seen if viewed in context, “…” could have been taken as an implicit “?”, leaving open the possibility of concepts unspoken to the imaginations of the reader, even of a grand denouement left hidden, hanging in a deft display of a kind of authorial “cliff hanger”, as it were.

Nevertheless, I believe it can be demonstrated that the asymmetrical nature of “?”, appearing as it does unbalanced and almost ready to topple, provides a more succinct expression than “…”, but that either is quite superior to the “.”.
Most intriguing and imaginative theory, Thena. However, as you yourself note, the "?" is unstable--really, it's a bit of a unicycle, a self-referring bit of circular argument that could threaten to create a rut more than a wide avenue for going forth with the topic.

". . ." does have the virtue of implying yet more unstated. However, it has the drawback of requiring a beginning, an introduction, a preliminary elaboration of the subject. For that reason, I decided initially to go with the "." as an opening gambit. The dot has the virtue of signifying landfall, as in "here beginneth a discussion", "at this point", "this spot flagged for further development." A little dot will do it.

[ ] speaking, TM, I see your ironic comment as most welcome. You could say it is a , _______ and ■ for you seem to have made a few catches.

The grammar of mythologies is a most intriguing topic, isn't it?
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:13 AM   #8
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Well, since I notice that it's pretty pointless to post anything making sense, I'd like to say that it's this $ + € that really matters.
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:50 PM   #9
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Old 05-24-2007, 01:30 AM   #10
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This thread amuses me.

Just because this is the only thread you can talk about anything you wish and you don't need to be afraid of the chat skrewls.
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