All those "Good" Guys

[DaughterofVana]

Didn't mean to create a stir with the orc mentionings. I did so because a discussion on another thread wavered into the realm of "Orcs are made to be evil," which sort of discounts my entire theory on nothing being evil by make; only by choice. [ Yet my scope is centered in the real world, and not the realm of fiction--in the world of ME, it *is* possible for something to be inheriently evil on the grounds that nothing in ME is really "real" in the first place. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] ] Was just wondering on the opinions of my fellow BD-ers; thought it could be a nice (side) discussion.

However my question seems to be one of a label. The orcs are not evil, but they cannot in good conscience be labeled as 'good'. They fit into few of the definitions of 'good' and they fit into none of the definitions that have been decided as reasonable ones. So what are orcs? Good or evil?

Well, even men are not completely good--for some reason or another, they have the tendency to commit "evil acts." We will do good when our disposition aids us, and when it might further our social/self identity--yet really put to it, when we're in a contrary mood and feel as if doing some sort of self-sacrifice for our neighbor will do us no real gain... well, there are some people out there who would percervere, but they are few and far between. Even doing something to please another person isn't entirely self-sacrificing; doesn't a person feel good when he or she is thanked? (Not that this is bad, but oftentimes this want for this feeling is the driving force for the action in the first place) Sure, someone might do something for someone else for the sole reason it is the "right thing to do," but even then it isn't the all-encompassing reason for each and every action. Only when this is the case is when the person (man, hobbit, elf, what have you) is entirely Good. Not a possiblity on earth; and not, I venture to say, a possiblity in ME.

Will add more later, but my disposition is contrary to in-depth discussion right now (hunger might have something to do with it [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] ). Please note the (quite possibly) gaping holes in the above and note them, and I shall return in a better mood and defend them. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Also didn't mean to skip over the (on topic) post above mine.

-'Vana