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[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Roa

Uh, guys, I'm pretty sure Volo was joking about the Vampires....

That's what I thought too...he's gotta be joking... Or is he?

Does this mean I'm going to have to move to Finland if I want to be come a Vampire too?

Originally Posted by Nogrod

However, I still think the villagers look like being quite the underdogs here.

I kind of have to agree with Noggie on this one. While I do like the idea of gifted baddies and hidden votes, combining both in one game may put the innocents at a great disadvantage.

I don't know...but perhaps we all just need some further explanations...

Also, 16:00 GMT - that's 4pm GMT, right? Sorry, I just get easily confused by these things...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Roa

Uh, guys, I'm pretty sure Volo was joking about the Vampires....

Hmm, that may be the obvious thing that I missed ...

But ... it didn't look like a joke to me (or am I just too dependent upon smilies).

Maybe I am reading too much into it, but I thought that there might be some fiendish explanation that would make sense of revealing the Vampires at the outset. Such as them being able to make new Vampires, although that would still leave the original Vampires without much of a challenge.

EDIT: If it was a joke, I rather agree with Nogrod that the Vampires would appear to have a loaded hand here.

[Thinlómien]

It was most definitely a joke from Volo's part, since Volo knows me, Aganzir and Noggie from/in RL and has been joking about making us the three wolves for a long while. (Obvioulsy it'd be quite funny from my perspective if the wolves were me, my father and one of my best friends...) So don't worry about that, dear fellow players.

[Macalaure]

Sign me in, please.

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I can understand what a vampire-Seer does. S/he's pretty powerful one as s/he can try to spot the gifteds for the vampires. I can also see that a vampire-hunter would take away one innocent when lynched. Both of these roles seem to make the vampires have the upper hand pretty definitively. To this the fact can be added that there is no voting-record to help the villagers. So are you sure about the balance of this game?

And what will a vampire-ranger do? Defend a fellow vampire that was to be lynched? Okay, I can see a point in this as the innocents who do the voting don't exactly know who was in trouble and thence a save by the vampire-ranger doesn't reveal the saved vampire for sure. Or is s/he only for saving another vampire whom the shade meant to kill at Night? In both cases, more in the first, the vampires are made even stronger.

Yes, the V(ampire)Seer is to find the Gifteds/Shade and the VHunter has a free kill at death.

The VRanger can save from the Shade and the Hunter, but not from the Lynch or the Lynch Kill (I'll explain).

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So the shade is only interested in her/his own survival, right? And s/he wins if s/he stays alive when the game ends? So s/he needs the village to win. So s/he must care about who wins...

Originally Posted by Legate

Well, I think the shadow wouldn't necessarily need to "join" the village, as far as I understand it, at the moment the wolves win, technically there are yet the same number of ordos alive - so if the shadow is one of them, he wins as well, doesn't he?

The Shade is on its own. Of course it can make deals with the Village or Vampires in the game thread, and betray if it wants.
It's the most important role in the whole game as it can change a lot, so use it wisely.

The only thing the Shade has to do is survive. It wins if either the Villagers or the Vampires win, as long as the Shade is alive. The Vampires don't have any reason to kill the Shade, except for their own safety, as the Shade can kill them. The Shade may also vote, unlike the Vampires.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Is the shade then the "secret weapon" of the villagers "who will bring the balance"?

If the Shade wishes to help the Village.

Originally Posted by Legate

Well, from what I understand now the biggest problem would be that there'd be an effort from the villagers to kill the Were-Ranger first, because otherwise there'd be no chance of lynching... or so I understand that...

Nah, the VRanger can't save from Lynches.

Originally Posted by SPM

Um, I may be missing something here, but, assuming that the villagers are allowed to discuss who to vote for?

Sure!

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Also, 16:00 GMT - that's 4pm GMT, right? Sorry, I just get easily confused by these things...

Yes.

Originally Posted by Volo

Oh, and the Vampires will be Aganzir, Thinlómien and Nogrod.

Originally Posted by Lommy

It was most definitely a joke from Volo's part, since Volo knows me, Aganzir and Noggie from/in RL and has been joking about making us the three wolves for a long while. (Obvioulsy it'd be quite funny from my perspective if the wolves were me, my father and one of my best friends...) So don't worry about that, dear fellow players.

In fact they should worry. You, Nogrod and Aganzir are the only ones that don't. It's a joke, sorry (not really... ) for confusing you... I'll shuffle all the roles. Or so I think.

Welcome, Roa, Gil and Mac! and Xyzzy, who PMd me.

[Volo]

The Vampires can't vote.

The voting happens in secret ie. by E-Mail! Send your votes (and everything to do with gifts) to wwthelostage@gmail.com More about this here.

This will be both good and bad to the Village:
All the votes will be honest, as there will be no Vampires to vote.
The Vampires might have to lie in the thread about their votes.
You can't be for sure.


And then the new feature that will make you have to trust and not only distrust.
The Lynch Seer:

The following happens during the Night:
The mod sends the name of the lynched person in a riddle to a random person. This random person is called the lynch-seer. There is a different lynch-seer everyDay. The lynch-seer may or may not reveal the riddle of the person to-be-lynched in the thread after the voting has been closed ie. after the deadline. The post should not contain anything else than the riddle. If the lynch-seer does so, the person whose riddle is told may tell the mod a name by posting it in the thread and that person will die along the to-be-lynched person. A bit like hunter, works on trust, may work once or twice.

F.ex.
Boromir88 is to be lynched.
Anguirel is the ”lynch seer”.
Nogrod is the person Boromir88 wants to kill.

Boromir88 got 18 votes and will be lynched, he himself doesn’t know that yet.

The mod picks Anguirel at random and sends him a private message with a ”Which Downer Am I?”-style riddle (the answer being Boromir88) (f.ex. ”The evil bird”, because of Boromir88 being a ”Fenris Penguin”) and the number of votes for that person.

Anguirel tries to guess who the player in the riddle is. He thinks that it’s Lommy, whom he trusts. So he thinks he will give her a license to kill and posts the riddle in the game thread (note: he doesn’t have to do so, if he doesn’t trust the person he thinks is to be lynched. He is not allowed to post anything except the riddle).

Boromir88 sees the riddle in the thread and seeing it's his riddle (you will be told the riddle about you before the game starts), he can now post the name of the person he'd like to kill in the thread. Boromir88 writes ”Nogrod”, because he wants to kill Nogrod (Boromir88 can be of any role to do so.).

In the end of the night both Boromir88 and Nogrod die. Also all the nightly victims die.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Volo

In the end of the night both Boromir88 and Nogrod die. Also all the nightly victims die.

Did I understand correctly? The person to be lynched dies at the end of the night, at the same time with Vampire and Shade victims? What if the Vampires or the Shade choose to kill someone who is "already dead"; eg. the Vampires want to kill Boromir, not knowing he'll be lynched?

I suppose I have missed something.