Eorling Mead Hall Planning/Discussion Thread

[Folwren]

Alright, a post placed.

Firefoot, I left it open for you to take it from there.
Shoudn't hte general's horse be exempted from the 'every horse saddled' order?

And Elempi, I also left it open for you. I sincerely hope this won't turn into a battle of wills between Falco and Thornden again. I thought of the scene in the ruins as I wrote him giving his orders. Of course, it would make it interesting indeed if Falco were to disregard Thornden's words....

-- Folwren

[Kath]

I sincerely hope this won't turn into a battle of wills between Falco and Thornden again. I thought of the scene in the ruins as I wrote him giving his orders. Of course, it would make it interesting indeed if Falco were to disregard Thornden's words....

I sort of moved Falco in the post I just made, but I did allude to a possible shouting match between the two just in case anyone wanted to write one. If either of you do want me to cut that out though it's fine.

[littlemanpoet]

I had a notion that we just needed a little bit of conflict to rev things up a bit.

I'm looking for Firefoot to have Léof determine the number of horses available; it is the ostler's priviledge and responsibility, of course, to determine which horses are actually available. I expect some interesting jostling once we have a horse to rider ratio.

I'll check what's been posted a minute to see what's what.....

Foley, it's a bandaged head, not a bandaged arm. Otherwise, a great post! Same to you, Kath!

I'll wait until tomorrow before posting for Falco again. We'll see what else happens in between now and then.

[Firefoot]

Excitement.

I'll have a post up tomorrow.

[Formendacil]

Celuien: I've taken the liberty of having Garstan joining the rush to rescue Eodwine, and of having him dash past Náin in the process. If that doesn't work, let me know, and I'll change the names... the character there is of minor importance.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Elempi

I had a notion that we just needed a little bit of conflict to rev things up a bit.

Eh...Go ahead then. It will be fun, whatever happens.

And I made the corrections. I had read forearm and not forehead. Oh well.

-- Folwren

[Thinlómien]

What a lovely mess!

I hope the things I wrote are okay with everyone and don't contradict anything previously written.

Argh, I just realised it is in contradiction with Form's post... But Form, if you said it's of little importance who the other person in your post is, could you change it? It'd be easier if it's someone else than Garstan, that would make both my and Kath's posts more logical. (Since in Kath's post Kara has to go somewhere to find Garstan.)

Anyway, don't hesitate to ask me edit something: I'll do it and you can go on posting assuming things are different from what I've just written on the game thread since I will only be able to edit tomorrow.

[littlemanpoet]

Believe it or not, Mithalwen, one of Eodwine's "quirks" as Eorl of the Middle Emnet is that he does not charge for food and drink, since this is his Eorl's Hall and not an inn. So Elfthain's in luck.

[Nogrod]

Oh my! Things are getting pretty rough around this serene place!

As my worst part of the year (with loads and loads of work) is slowly dragging to an end I would just like to inform you that I'm soon back too. So you may count Stigend in with the "rescue mission" as Lommy already wrote.

[Firefoot]

So here's my quandary... like Leof, I'm not really sure if he would realistically ride out with them. Does anyone have a thought about this?

Chances are that Leof will choose to stay at the Hall unless one of the characters mentions to him that he might go with them...

[littlemanpoet]

Falco has stated his opinion on the matter, though no one was really listening.

[Formendacil]

Not a problem... Thorden it is... unless HIS writer has an objection. (I don't THINK I saw one between here and LMP's post). I shall change that.

[Folwren]

Elempi,

I'm in a quandary. I, as a girl, would make Falco stay home. His arm is bleeding through his bandage! I would especially make him stay home because of what I know about first aid, and how bad it is to cut your arm to the point that it bleeds a lot. And his head is bleeding, too!

On the other hand, I as a LotR reader and fan know how tough hobbits are.

I also know that if Thornden makes Falco stay, goodness KNOWS what YOU'RE going to do to the poor fellow.

What I don't know is how a man would react. What would you do in such a case? Thornden's a man who's carried arms for about two years. He's maybe done a few little things, but he's never seen all out battle or war, surely. He'd probably let a man with such a flesh wound go out, but Falco is a hobbit - he's half Thornden's size. There are enough men for Thornden to work with, in his mind, Falco will only get in the way if he goes. Spy? What on earth does Thornden need a spy for?

I'm leaning towards having Thornden make Falco stay, but before I do that, I want to know if that's realistic for a man to do, and I also want to know if it will seem ridiculous. I can't stand being wrong, Elempi, and I can't stand even more being made to be ridiculous.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Falco is as stubborn as any hobbit will be. Have your character do what your character would do.

About being made to look ridiculous: Falco has not made Thornden look ridiculous. Only Thornden can allow that to happen.

Now here's an additional question to help: how many men can Thornden spare to keep Falco from coming, and for how long? Is it worth the time to force Falco to stay?

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

About being made to look ridiculous: Falco has not made Thornden look ridiculous. Only Thornden can allow that to happen.

No, he hasn't yet, but I'm remembering the time in the ruins when I actually blushed on Thornden's account because of what Falco said about him.

Now here's an additional question to help: how many men can Thornden spare to keep Falco from coming, and for how long? Is it worth the time to force Falco to stay?

That's not much of a problem. I think Thornden could do it by himself. It would be possitively hilarious if he could lock him in a room, but I don't know where the keys are kept.

Hm....

Well, I'll go write a post. I think I've got an idea.

EDIT: It's posted. We'll see how that works.

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

Fol - I used Javan a fair bit in my post... let me know if anything's not right.

[Folwren]

I'm fine with what you did, but it seems like Elempi had Falco address Leof before he was quite out of danger. I'll post tonight.

-- Folwrey

[littlemanpoet]

Firefoot, how many horses?

Foley, how many men?

[Folwren]

Elempi, it's probably a good thing you edited....Thornden had lost his temper when Falco threatened Leof.

Anyhow, no, I don't suppose this is the end between Thornden and Falco... I was thinking just now before coming back that there had best be some sort of discussion between Eodwine, Falco, and Thornden before something like this happens again. Of course, when I thought that, I was under the impression that Falco had just told Leof he would lame him, so, that was pretty bad.

Anyhow, I've got to go help make dinner. If no one else does before me, I'll work on a post to get them out and on their way later tonight.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

Alright, I'm about to post. I have no idea what you have planned, Elempi. I don't know where they are, or how many they are, what condition Eodwine and Rilef are in, or anything like that...

So, we'll see what we can do.

Javan's ready for Falco's idea to be sprung upon him.

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

I was under the impression that Falco had just told Leof he would lame him, so, that was pretty bad.

I missed that.

[Folwren]

lol! You posted your post a minute or so before Elempi posted a post, but he missed your post, so had Falco turn towards Leof and say, rather meanly, if I say so myself, "If you touch that pony, I'll lame you in the other foot" or something along those lines.

And what I wrote next was something along the lines of Thornden not having lost his temper before hand but now..................

But then I got on and checked the thread again and what do you know! Elempi had edited his post and hadn't said anything so savage to Leof.

Edit: Elempi, I believe there are nine riders, at least.
Garreth
Harreld
Thornden
Garwine
Trystan
Garstan
Stigend (sp)
Leof
Nain

Any others there could possibly be? I did not include the General. He's exhausted. But were there possibly any non-player characters that could go out and fight?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi doesn't say mean things to Léof, Falco does. Make sure you get that right, please.

9 riders (Nain being a passenger) and 8 horses. Perfect. Lucky men at arms.

Yes, Foley, you do not have any idea what Eodwine's and Rilef's conditions are. Thornden woudn't.

As a matter of fact, I'm having some doubts about how this can work. My first idea is that Eodwine has holed himself up in that roofless circular chamber, and blocked both entrances with rubble, forcing their enemies to climb over the top or into the trees in order to get at him. Problem is, they could do this pretty easily, and Eodwine would have trouble holding off more than 2 at a time (Rilef 1 or 2 at a time) for long; and he did not take bow and arrows.

The other possibility was that the two climbed the highest trees they could find. I may just have to go with that. So the riders may see smoke in the direction of the ruins, which could suggest any number of things.... Anyway...

[Folwren]

Elempi,

There you have it. Falco's so lucky. And I sincerely hope you appreciate the risk I'm running with Javan now in clear danger of getting into trouble for letting this impudent hobbit trick him into such a thing.

Looks like this will be exciting.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Sure, sure, blame it all on the impudent hobbit; nevermind that he's only giving Javan exactly what he wants.

[Folwren]

I shall indeed! Javan wanted to, yes, but he wouldn't have, if Falco hadn't come in and told him to. Falco's the serpent, in this case, and Javan is Eve.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I was going to let it go, but I really can't. Foley, it's like this. Regardless of how you see Falco, or how Thornden sees him, Falco does not see himself as 'the serpent'. He is convinced that he's right, and that Thornden has no right whatsoever to do what he did. So in his eyes, it's not a temptation but a right. Therefore, he's not going to try and help Javan "do wrong" without disobeying "the letter of Thornden's law"; instead, he'll try to convince Javan that Thornden had no right to "hijack" his pony. So I need something changed in your post, which of course will change the rest of your post:

“You have a horse, don’t you?” Falco prodded.

needs to be changed to:

"I'm a guest here, young man," said Falco, "and your brother had no call to jail me nor my pony. So he's gone against the Eorl's word in this, see, and you'd be doing no wrong by letting me have what's mine by rights."

What you do with Javan from there is, of course, up to you, but what you have in that post will have to be altered. Sorry (a wee bit).

[Folwren]

lol! Elempi! You didn't have to do that. I was teasing.

But I'll change it, of course, according to what you want. Not now...I'm on my way (or supposed to be on my way) out the door.

So...this evening, when I get back, I'll change my post.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

Well, sir, the edit is done. Javan can't blame it on Falco quite as much now. Does my edit look alright?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

A most commendable effort, Foley. You have set the scene well, and then started the action, allowing your own character to be hurt. What I especially like is how it's from Thornden's point of view, and the reader sees the whole thing through his eyes. Good stuff.

[Thinlómien]

I'm glad Modtryth's not aware what's happening...

[Folwren]

Thank you kindly, Elempi. I'm glad it passes...

Now, forward with you other writers!

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Okay, Garmund and Stigend can help Eodwine tie up the man and keep him quiet before going into the tower. Please allow me to write what they find in there from Eodwine's perspective.

Okay, I have a question. Does this tower have a roof? I had imagined the whole place as roofless, but that seems to vary with some descriptions. Well?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Okay, Garmund and Stigend can help Eodwine

Garmund and Stigend?

I'll look at this tomorrow... It's coming 2AM here.

EDIT:Okay. I checked it... So garmund and Cnebba can help Eodwine. Alright.

I try to look at the thing tomorrow as I said. But do go on lmp if you have clear ideas and time. If you wish something from our posting (Cel & I) please let us know.

[Firefoot]

Quite all right, Nogrod. I can wait.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Okay, I have a question. Does this tower have a roof? I had imagined the whole place as roofless, but that seems to vary with some descriptions. Well?

I certainly imagine it roofless... It's a very old ruin, after all.

And I can hardly believe that you knocked out my outlaw after I'd only written with him once. But that's fine. Very exciting. And I'm glad to see that Eodwine is alright and now somewhere that I can at least locate in my mind... before he was just somewhere random.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I certainly imagine it roofless... It's a very old ruin, after all.

So do I. My idea was that there was a doorway that went into the mound so as to actually go downwards... like it is with old buildings: they subside. But the top-levels should have tumbled down or at least the roof should have fallen so no roof on the top but maybe one or two levels with a roof of a kind?

And I can hardly believe that you knocked out my outlaw after I'd only written with him once. But that's fine.

Your outlaw?! I wrote long parts for the encounter of him and the two boys as well yesterday but they're clearly of no use any more... But maybe it's better that way as my version of the meeting of the three was pretty nasty. And anyhow we have Lord Eodwine back in the story.

I'll be seeing to both Stigend helping Leof and possibly for the kids with Eodwine this evening. If lmp or Cel wish to continue with the three please let me know so that I don't write the stuff in vain (I'll start with Stigend and Leof anyhow and will not be doing it as a work, so proceeding slowly every now and then...)