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Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-29-2007, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Might

What does city mean...a big settlement?

Yes, a big settlement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

Orodreth, Gondors 16th steward and ruler of Minas Tirith in Gondor was named after Orodreth, brother of Finrod, who was in charge of the first Minas Tirith in Beleriand

Oh, this is why I wrote that I hope the question is understandable. Let me use what Gil-Galad wrote as an example: if Orodreth the Steward was to be correct answer, then he would have to live in a city not named Minas Tirith, but in a city named "Belecthor I." (this was his father).

The Might · 03-29-2007, 06:47 AM

I asked because I found the members of the Gamwhich family in the Shire that lived in the village with the same name...but it's not a city I guess

Anyway, what about Hama, son of Helm Hammerhand
He followed his father to the Hornburg and died during the winter, afterwards the city was named after his father

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-29-2007, 06:52 AM

But he died at that time, right? So he didn't live in Helm's deep when it was named the same as his father, only before, when it was not named at all.
And, he didn't live there... quite the opposite, actually

Gil-Galad · 03-29-2007, 07:32 AM

well i meant Father, as more of a analogy to the past, like in memory, not of the maternal sense, as the line of stewards(at least i think so) was connected to the royal family of Numenor which was connected to the Elven royal family.

So with Orodreth the elf being lord of the first Minas Tirith and Orodreth the man being lord of the second Minas Tirith, i just saw the connection there. if the grammar was changed in the question, like adding a comma after city, then this anwser would make more sense

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-30-2007, 06:39 AM

Yes, but there is no comma and the question is far simpler than that, though it shows really constructive "riddler" thinking. Try something else

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-12-2007, 04:18 PM

The original question was:

Who dwelt in a city which was named the same as his father?

We agreed on that "city"stands for a "big settlement" here.

Now, here's the hint:

This "city"'s name had two parts, while one of them was the name and the second had the meaning of "city" or something like that. Like, for example:

Port Sauron

or

Aragornsville

Hope this helps. I don't want to see threads dead!

The Might · 04-12-2007, 04:36 PM

I would have said Ephel Brandir, but he had no sons...and it wasn't that big

Maybe Meneldil...Minas Anor/Anarion
I know it's not good, but I can't seem to find anything else.

03-29-2007, 06:47 AM	#2
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I asked because I found the members of the Gamwhich family in the Shire that lived in the village with the same name...but it's not a city I guess Anyway, what about Hama, son of Helm Hammerhand He followed his father to the Hornburg and died during the winter, afterwards the city was named after his father __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-29-2007, 06:52 AM	#3
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	But he died at that time, right? So he didn't live in Helm's deep when it was named the same as his father, only before, when it was not named at all. And, he didn't live there... quite the opposite, actually __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-29-2007, 07:32 AM	#4
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	well i meant Father, as more of a analogy to the past, like in memory, not of the maternal sense, as the line of stewards(at least i think so) was connected to the royal family of Numenor which was connected to the Elven royal family. So with Orodreth the elf being lord of the first Minas Tirith and Orodreth the man being lord of the second Minas Tirith, i just saw the connection there. if the grammar was changed in the question, like adding a comma after city, then this anwser would make more sense __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-30-2007, 06:39 AM	#5
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Yes, but there is no comma and the question is far simpler than that, though it shows really constructive "riddler" thinking. Try something else __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

04-12-2007, 04:18 PM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, a hint time maybe... The original question was: Who dwelt in a city which was named the same as his father? We agreed on that "city"stands for a "big settlement" here. Now, here's the hint: This "city"'s name had two parts, while one of them was the name and the second had the meaning of "city" or something like that. Like, for example: Port Sauron or Aragornsville Hope this helps. I don't want to see threads dead! __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

04-12-2007, 04:36 PM	#7
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I would have said Ephel Brandir, but he had no sons...and it wasn't that big Maybe Meneldil...Minas Anor/Anarion I know it's not good, but I can't seem to find anything else. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

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