The atrocity of the Akallabêth

[davem]

Originally Posted by Raynor

No one has been able to come up with a better solution to the Numenorean problem. So, as stated previously, I fail to see the point of the critique.

'Better' does not equal 'best'.

[Raynor]

Originally Posted by davem

'Better' does not equal 'best'.

But surely you understand that if nothing is better than this, then it is, by definition, the best.

[davem]

Originally Posted by Raynor

But surely you understand that if nothing is better than this, then it is, by definition, the best.

But surely you understand that you haven't proven that nothing was better than this. I'm sure that in the sixties many people could not think of a better way of doing complex mathematical calculations than by using a slide rule. Calculators are now known to be better. Just because one cannot think of a better way to do 'x' does not make the way that is used the 'best' - just the 'best' one can come up with at the time.

But the point is we are dealing with an Omnipotent, Omniscient being here - & one who is supposed to be both good, merciful & compassionate.

[Raynor]

But surely you understand that you haven't proven that nothing was better than this.

But you are unwarrantly shifting the burden of proof (and I and others have done 'our' part, by showing those other variants achieve less), since it is you who criticises the adequacy of this.

Just because one cannot think of a better way to do 'x' does not make the way that is used the 'best' - just the 'best' one can come up with at the time.

As in others threads, I witness the hope that something will somehow pop up that will contradict Tolkien's statements. Until then, your critique is baseless.

[davem]

Originally Posted by Raynor

But you are unwarrantly shifting the burden of proof (and I and others have done 'our' part, by showing those other variants achieve less), since it is you who criticises the adequacy of this.

Yes, because it is inadequate

As in others threads, I witness the hope that something will somehow pop up that will contradict Tolkien's statements. Until then, your critique is baseless.

No, I was offering a perfectly logical critique of your statement.

[Raynor]

Originally Posted by davem

Yes, because it is inadequate

An opinion contradicted throughout this thread, if you care to re-read it.

No, I was offering a perfectly logical critique of your statement.

The story and the author state that He is good; nobody found a better alternative to his actions. Unless you come up with some evidence worth discussing, I will refrain from simply repeating the conclusions of this thread and wait for better times in this thread too.