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Old 03-09-2007, 03:49 PM   #22
davem
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Originally Posted by Raynor
Why? Norm is a standard notion in ethics and morality.
For the second time, I am talking about a case in which the person adopts said moral principles, that certain ideas/feelings/propensities are wrong/evil/immoral.
Once its established & agreed upon, not when one simply assumes that which is to be proved.


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If they try to present vampires as role-models, then, to me, the answer is yes. However, I am not aware this is the case with these works.
But you didn't mention anything about presenting them as role models - you talked about having a 'fascination with them'.

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For me, it relates to a personal conviction, that being fascinated with vampires enstrages one from his soul.
I think 'personal convictions' are all well & good, but to simply throw one into a discussion (one in which, I might add, you have repeatedly demanded that other posters supply 'evidence' & justify each single point they make) is hardly likely to further the discussion. I have a 'personal conviction' that celery is the work of the devil, but I don't see that it contributes to the discussion either.

[quote[It is right because it is consistent with morality; quite a truism I might say. I find pleasure and satisfaction in such a fascination, because it fulfills and helps, in its own way, a desire to come closer to what I believe is my ideal.[/QUOTE]

No, you see, what you're doing is making all encompassing statements ('x' is a truism) & when the statement is challenged you respond to the effect that 'I was only referring to situations where said person accepts this to be the case.'
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