Werewolf XXX - Tol-in-Elendili - The Isle of the Were-Faithfuls

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by the guy who be short

Kitanna - I don't understand your analysis of Mith. You think she voted to save an innocent rune, yet you find her more suspicious than Lommy and Lalaith?

Here's the thing I think an innocent Mith and a faithful Mith are just as likely to try to save innocent Rune. Also I feel slightly more confident in Mith working alone, than Lommy and Lalaith working together. But I've been looking back on Mith from other days and I'm starting to alleviate some of my suspicions of her.
I have to vote soon and I have four people I'd like to vote for, but no idea which one I'll actually vote for.

[Mithalwen]

well I have suspected from the beginning so unless something drastic happens... and to minimise another last minute muddle

++LALAITH

[Lalaith]

Originally Posted by Lalaith
And then his top suspects always seem to be innocents.

This is a poor point indeed. Given that we have not yet caught a Faithful, most of the village’s top suspects in previous Days have been innocents. I had thought better of you than to make such a point, even as a Faithful, Lal.

Ah, but none of my suspects have been tried at the lynch yet. Your top suspects on the other hand, often do end up lynched. That is what makes you so dashed dangerous, Saucie.

[Gil-Galad]

Just want to add, if i get killed off by the faithfuls, i would look at TGWBs mainly because in his last statement:

Why? Gil has as much chance as any of us of being a wolf. As I said, I think at least two of the wolves are hiding among the quiet.

trying to shift it to somebody else? it is a good tactic to bring somebody else up that has not been pre-determined as where their loyalties lie, but my vote still stands on you because this is trying to get the spotlight off of you.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Here's the thing I think an innocent Mith and a faithful Mith are just as likely to try to save innocent Rune. Also I feel slightly more confident in Mith working alone, than Lommy and Lalaith working together. But I've been looking back on Mith from other days and I'm starting to alleviate some of my suspicions of her.
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Well I am glad of that but I don't see why. I wanted to lynch Lalaith as I have done more or less since the start. When that seemed impossible, I chose to make my vote count and vote for someone who seemed a bit suspicious than for someon who seemed unsuspicious. I said that at the time.

[Kitanna]

I have skimmed as much as I could. And I remain lost. I hesitate to vote for Lommy and Mith today. I'd like to get a better look at them before actually voting for them. I'm not sure where to go with the other two. I could go with my original suspect of the day, Hookbill, or I could just jump on Lalaith like others have already done.
I don't find one more suspicious than the other.

++ Lalaith

I'm going to listen to my gut. I can hold off on Hookbill for a day.

Edit: cross-posted with Lalaith, Mith, and Gil

[Kath]

I'm sorry guys but I have literally 10 minutes to post toDay. House-hunting has kept me very occupied and I'm off to look at another one at half past so as you can see, I'm in something of a rush.

I'm not entirely sure where this sudden attack on Lalaith has come from. There was that argument between her and Sauce that had the both of them accusing the other of doing the same thing. I actually wonder if this is a wolf on wolf ploy. The wolves still have full ranks, if Sauce and Lalaith are both wolves a Sauce-led bandwaggon on Lalaith might, in future Days, save him from the noose.

Before her last post I was finding Kitanna pretty innocent looking, but when deciding who to vote for (Lalaith or Hookbill) she first says she doesn't suspect one more than the other but then says she will go with her gut and vote Lalaith. Seems a bit contradictory to me.

The strange thing is, the more Nogrod rails against people the more I think them innocent. In fact if Noggie wasn't a known innocent it would be him I would want to lynch! He reminds me far too much of me as a wolf, picking out little comments and making a huge deal out of them.

However, to some extent that same logic applies to TGWBS. He has a presence here and has certainly looked helpful with his analyses and constant maths, but the latter does not really offer information and we know the former can be mislreading.

Sauce is worrying me a little, he's twisting words. I can't see that Durelin really defended him at all, indeed she specifically said that she wasn't. She was arguing with Noggie but then, right now, who doesn't want to?

Argh, that's it, time's up.

++SAUCE

I'm especially loathe to go with any of my suspicions from yesterDay since two of them ended up being innocent, and right now from what I've read he looks the most suspicious to me.

[Mithalwen]

I am still not convinced that Sauce is innocent .... I think they both could be wolves .... we can only lynch one at a time.......

[Lalaith]

Oh, yes, I meant to highlight one of the things that worried me about Kath's post 376.

This:

TGWBS - I'm barely going to comment. Right now I find him unbelievably suspicious but I strongly suspect that that is due to a large difference in playing style and old history. So I'm going to ignore him until I can look at him with fresh eyes.

Followed by this:

No idea yet:
Lalaith
TGWBS

I may have misconstrued the first comment (the bolding is mine) - Kath, could you elucidate?

[Kath]

Ooh just in time there Lalaith.

So I'm going to ignore him until I can look at him with fresh eyes.

Is the reason he was in the no idea list. I decided not to pass any judgement on him yesterDay.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Ah, but none of my suspects have been tried at the lynch yet.

So you didn't suspect Brinniel when you voted for her then?

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Your top suspects on the other hand, often do end up lynched. That is what makes you so dashed dangerous, Saucie.

Actually, only one of those whom I have voted for was lynched. And that was the Cobbler. My other main suspects who have turned out innocent were killed by the Faithfuls. And I am far from being the only one whose suspects have turned out innocent. Which doesn't surprise me at all. It's pretty standard.

Here's a list of those who have cast a final vote for known innocents:

Manwe 1
Lommy 2
SpM 2
TGWBS 2
Kitanna 1
Durelin 2
Kath 1
Lalaith 1
Legate 1
Mithalwen 1
Nogrod 1

And here's a list of those who have cast a final vote for a know innocent who was lynched:

Lommy 1
TGWBS 1
Kitanna 1
Durelin 1
Lalaith 1
Legate 1
Mithalwen 1

So, I am not sure what your point is here.

Actually, it occurs to me that those who have largely managed to avoid voting for those who have turned out innocent may well be the one's to watch. For now, my vote stands, but I am going to look into that.

[Lalaith]

Brinniel was not one of my top suspects, no. YOu can check my suspect list of yesterday to confirm this. As I have explained, both at the time, and subsequently, she was more suspicious to me than Rune who I felt was innocent and wanted to save.
You on the other hand have three times categorically stated that you were "sure" that innocents were Faithfuls. First with Rikae and Noggie, then with Rune and Brinniel and now - as everyone will know if you succeed in getting me lynched - with me.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Brinniel was not one of my top suspects, no.

I know. I was responding to this:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Ah, but none of my suspects have been tried at the lynch yet.

You expressed suspicion of her. You voted for her on that basis, even though she was not one of your top suspects. And she was lynched.

You on the other hand have three times categorically stated that you were "sure" that innocents were Faithfuls. First with Rikae and Noggie, then with Rune and Brinniel ...

I never said that I was "sure" that they were Faithfuls. I said that they were uppermost in my suspicions. Of them, I felt most strongly about Rune.

I am, however, becoming more convinced about you with every post.

[Lalaith]

Pants on fire, Saucie:

I am fairly sure that one of these two is a Faithful

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes, I am aware that I said that. It's hardly the same as "categorically" stating that I was "sure" they were Faithfuls.

Brinniel's subsequent contributions lessened my suspicions of her. Hence my switch to Rune, who looked the more suspicious to me.