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03-03-2007, 01:39 AM
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Shade of Carn Dűm
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Fellow obsessors, I created a new thread in the Books where we can take on the idea of charisma in the novels, because I agree with Elladan and Elrohir... it feels like the original thread was about acting ability.
Yet I love the character charisma ranting! So here's the thread. http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...939#post511939 Feel free to ignore my post when you get there. I had to put some text in it. 
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03-03-2007, 04:44 AM
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Pilgrim Soul
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Charisma is also seemingly subjective. I find Ian McKellen so mannered and hammy I could boil him for Christmas but Viggo Mortensen just became Aragorn (and I haven't found him anything like as impressive in other roles).....
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03-03-2007, 08:10 AM
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03-07-2007, 02:40 PM
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Pilgrim Soul
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I don't blame him for the script .... but I think screen Aragorn is more sympathetic in some aspects. Book Aragorn is liable to be pompous, priggish, and generally a bit of a stuffed shirt ...  I did open a poll elsewhere after TTT came out which showed that 97% believed that the the horse was a better kisser than Arwen but I don't think that is what you mean.....
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03-07-2007, 04:42 PM
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03-07-2007, 08:53 PM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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I agree about a lack of charisma. If I may venture close to the borders of political opinion, I think it could be attributed to politically correct attitudes about someone who excels. There tends to be an attitude of leveling the playing field, whether it be in the world of business, or in schools. To quote from the Pixar film The Incredibles, "They keep creating new ways to celebrate mediocrity but if someone is genuinely exceptional...!"
The exceptional characters of Lord of the Rings and other role models should be what we aspire to. I personally aspire to the characteristics of favorite Tolkien-created characters. But watching battle speeches of Theoden and Aragorn; that is charisma. I adore the battle speech of Theoden. Goosebumps every time I replay it in my mind.
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03-07-2007, 10:32 PM
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