WW XXIX Dor-en-Gaur

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Durelin

So...Ang could kill during the Day and Night?

Yes he could, but only once in any given Day/Night -cycle (so not three times in a row...). I thought of making this assassin role possibly powerful and carrying great risks with it, but I never knew what I had done as Anguirel turned out to be the one wielding it...

Originally Posted by Farael

By the way Nogrod what was the difference between an alpha and beta wolf, and most importantly, was it by chance that the alpha wolf was the last one alive or did you just decided that the first two to be killed would be beta regardless of who they were?

Those were basically given because of the Hunter's list to begin with. So in the beginning Lal and Kath killed together and Rikae alone. Had either party tried to kill Boro I would have checked the list for actual killer/s being there. If Rikae would have been on the list but Lal and Kath would have killed him nothing would have happened to Rikae as she was not there... So logical hunter of a sort.

So yes. Rikae was the alpha from the very beginning.

Originally Posted by Kath

So ... did the Rangers ever develop the ability to talk to each other?

Nope. Firefoot and Durelin learned each others identities on Night2 when they both protected Boro. After that they didn't meet...

Originally Posted by Volo

Now I wish that the special roles are revealed to us!

I have my initial pMs to the special-role players still saved somewhere and could flood the thread with them if you like. In them all the things about the roles are explained (in torturous detail I'm afraid... but they needed to work as guidelines to the players anyhow )

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I have my initial pMs to the special-role players still saved somewhere and could flood the thread with them if you like. In them all the things about the roles are explained (in torturous detail I'm afraid... but they needed to work as guidelines to the players anyhow )

Sounds good, I'm waiting.

[Roa_Aoife]

For that matter, I like it when the wolves post their plotting. It's up to them of course, but it's always fun to see the plotting.

[Lalaith]

Can I just jump in and say in my opinion, this was the most enjoyable game to read, as a non-player, of any I've seen on here. I was just spitting that I was too busy to play.
I would love to know all the rules of this new variant. Noggie, will you post them?

[Lalwendë]

That was very hard work I have to say! I am rubbish at lying so I never bother with it, so this was really difficult! Plus I ended up not being able to give much time up to it on Saturday so I had no way of defending meself.

It was great though, you're all great to play WW with!

[Roa_Aoife]

Fearing me, I get. Distrusting me, I get. Wanting to be on my side, I almost get. But who here trusts me?

And look at how popular Boromir is- everyone wants him on their team.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Fearing me, I get. Distrusting me, I get. Wanting to be on my side, I almost get. But who here trusts me?

Err that might have been me..I didn't keep the pm but I think made a qualified comment about trusting your abilities as a strategist and interpreter but never being able to certain to trust your innocence unless proved by a seer...Which explains my genuine surprise that you were killed so early .... . remeber how I jumped on Volo for saying you didn't make sense - the reason you are so dangerous as a wolf is that you can manage to put so much conviction into your reading of the game... I couldn't be sure that you were innocent but I was sure you were making sense .

And I got the sympathy vote ... lol

The assasin role does need a big village and no seer to work "evenly".... I do think the seer role can make the ordo villagers lazy - since nothing could be left to the seer we all had to work.. and the more people say, the easier it is ...in theory at least...

[Firefoot]

That was... harrowing, to say the least. I had a lot of fun. Thanks for probing me into playing, Nogrod.

Great job everybody - especially to Rikae for lasting so long under such great suspicion. You almost had me thinking you were innocent again.

As of Night 3, Kath, I was completely convinced you were innocent and extensively debated protecting you over Durelin (I still don't know if this was a good choice - Nogrod, what did Rune inform the wolves?? Would Durelin have been dead if I hadn't protected her? Or not - would I have been able to then protect her the next night?). Lal was my third choice, but that was when I started thinking she was a wolf.

Boro's revealing himself may well have been one of the best things to happen in the game - it allowed Durelin and I to at least know each other's identities, and considering that I was one of her prime suspects until then...

Very enjoyable, everyone.

[Nogrod]

The wolves played well and the teamwork seemed to go smoothly in good sporting spirits, but the Villagers were just outstanding, just absolutely fabulous!

And I'm most delighted of the way this win was gained. Plain and clear old-fashioned reasoning: observation and logic. Wow!

But had the dynamics of this game been different (aka the roles would have been spreaded differently) I think also the special roles would have turned out having very different effects indeed...

I'll post you something about the roles before I go to sleep...

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And as so many people here have already said: it was really a great game to read (and to mod). Thank's all! Love you!

[Nogrod]

Rune was basically a normal cobbler. But I called him informer as he was able to send the wolves a piece of information everyNight (after the wolves had sent me their kill) - two in the first Night. That information was taken randomly from a list of things that they could learn, ranging from information about someone having no role to the way other roles work or even someone having a role X (Rune might have also learned an identity of a wolf as well). So as the time would have gone on, the informer might have proven a very important player.

I also thought that playing it would be nice as the informer would learn the same things he was "sending" to the wolves (= I sent the info to all of them).

In this game Rune managed to pass the following information:
Night2
- Mith has no special role.
- The hunter has a list of three during Nights.
Night3
- Another Ranger protected Anguirel this Night and Boro the Night before.

I guess the other roles we have already discussed... I'll answer any questions, though.

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It was somewhat ironic that Celuien protected Anguirel on Night2 and after that Ang killed him with his dagger on the same Night! And I couldn't narrate that to not tell you too much!

There was this one also: no Ranger protected Boro on Night3 (as they couldn't), but neither did Boro had any wolf in his list of three then! I really bit my nails that day as I waited for how it would turn out as I knew that it would become really hard for the wolves if they didn't try to kill him at that point - and actually seeing that they had their chance of a lifetime there...

Originally Posted by Firefoot

Would Durelin have been dead if I hadn't protected her? Or not - would I have been able to then protect her the next night?

Nope - and yes... That's the way it turns occasionally.

Originally Posted by Roa

But who here trusts me?

Fortunately I destroyed the individual answers back then and only have this summary left. But someone does!

[Macalaure]

Hilarious game! I sometimes used to lose interest in a game once I'm out, but not so this time. At the end of the second day I thought the village might be swept by the wolves. Great turnaround then.

Originally Posted by Roa

Roa (Day 1): Hm, Rikae seems really suspicious to me. I'll be looking at her closely in the next few days.

*Roa gets killed*

Village: Roa was probably killed because she's a good player, not because she was onto anything. Nevermind that she's usually left alive by the wolves because she's a suspicion magnet. Nope, she didn't have a wolf pegged or anything.

Rikae: *bats eyes* Roa was some sort of fearsome player? I had no idea! *bats eyes some more and repeats same thing two more times*

Roa: *bangs head against keyboard*

Hate to disappoint you, Roa, but I got killed by the alpha-wolf Rikae.

Very good game, Rikae! There were just too many known innocents in the end.

[Nogrod]

Just to begin with. Here's the results of the Questionnaire. Read and wonder what you think! There are some pretty interesting things in it, in the way we people perceive each other before a game...

The Questionnaire

The key:
Trust (T)
Sympathy (S)
Distrust (D)
Afraid of (A)
Wish to be on the same side (W)

The results:
Durelin – T1, A1
Rikae – T2
Thinlómien – T5, S2, D2,W5
Volo – S1
Kath – T1, S2, D4, A2, W1
Macalaure- T1, S1, W5
Rune son of Bjarne – T2, S2, D1,W1
Boromir88 – T2, S2, D2, A2, W8
Mithalwen – T3, S5, A1 W3
Lalwendë – T2, S2, A2, W3
Farael – D3
Naria – S2, D2
Anguirel – T4, S2, D3, A6, W4
Mormegil – T1, D6, A5, W6
Celuien – T3, A2, W5
Firefoot – T2, S1, A1, W4
Eomer – S3, D5, A1, W7
Gil-Galad – S1, D4
Roa_Aoife – T1, D2, A5, W6

[Volo]

Haha, I said it's natural to vote the big scary Anguirel.

[Durelin]

Here's the Ranger PM:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Hello Ranger and congratulations for something which hopefully turns out to be a very interesting and challenging role! It's a game of the three of you against the three of them!

So you are one of those three that were given a sword by the Eagles. Your task is to defend another villagers every Night with the other two rangers. Unfortunately you don’t know the identities of them, yet.

You may learn your mates identities. If two (three) of you happen to defend a same villager during the Night you will learn the identity of the other ranger(s). And, if you happen to defend a same villager (any villager) a second time together, you will be earning a right to PM each other during the Days and thence plot your defences for the Night the rest of the game.

If two of you have earned the right to PM together you may risk a jackpot if you so wish. That means: you may decide to go and defend a same person yet again (thence leaving one innocent whom you could defend vulnerable to a kill) and if you’re right and the wolf comes to a kill you will not only drive the wolf away but will also kill it together. If there are two (or more) wolves alive at the point you try this jackpot you should send me a shared list of your suspicions in the order of suspicion – then the higher/st one on your list will be the one who gets killed.

Even though in principle you have time to decide whom you are going to protect over the Night until the deadline, I will appreciate early notification of your actions (hopefully at least an hour before). There maybe a lot of action in this village during the Nights and thence it may turn out just impossible for me to open the Day in time if you notify me only minutes before the deadline.

No ranger is allowed to defend a same person two Nights in a row.

You wolves were great fun! Especially you, Rikae! I knew you were crazy and bold enough for that sort of thing. Lal did an excellent job looking like she was going along with things up till her end...and once it came down to her lynching she was great fun. I wish Kath had had more time and been less of a lurker. That's one of the dangers of a Kath-wolf, though, I suppose.

[Kath]

I wish Kath had had more time and been less of a lurker. That's one of the dangers of a Kath-wolf, though, I suppose.

Tell me about it. I had such good intentions for this game, and then event after event conspired against me! One might think it was karma.

Umm, as to our choices, you definitely don't want our full discussions. Perhaps Rikae you could do the explanations since you were our longest surviving comrade?