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Old 02-02-2007, 04:07 PM   #1
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I would imagine certain races were more prone that others, I bet, like Mith said, Numernoreans would have a very good immunity.

I haven't yet read the Hobbit so I didn't know Bilbo caught a cold. Thanks!
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:42 PM   #2
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I bet, like Mith said, Numernoreans would have a very good immunity.
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...they did not thus escape from the doom of death that Iluvatar had set upon all Mankind, and they were mortal still, though their years were long, and they knew no sickness, ere the shadow fell upon them.
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This raises a most interesting question. What is the nature of viruses and bacterial infection in Middle-earth and whence do they arise?

I mean, are they part of the original music and thus part of Eru's plan or are they offspring of Morgoth's thought? Did the doom of men require infection and disease? Decay seems to be part of the negative aspects of Middle-earth--hence Galadriel's effort to maintain Lothlorien free from decay--but aren't bacteria and viruses part of that decay process? Thus, one would assume they belong to Sauron's camp/devising.

Are all illnesses morgul wounds (either lesser or greater)?

Given Elrond's reputation as a healer and Aragorn's 'hands of the King' and Ioreth's remembrance of tribal lore, it would suggest that illness does indeed have a role in the morality of Middle-earth.
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In the Silmarillion, "green things fell sick and rotten" after Utumno is built. Also, if I remember correctly, Valinor is as Arda Unmarred would have been, and of Valinor it is said that "it knew no corruption or sickness" (oh well, at least in the begining). The description of Aman in Myths Transformed also gives a similar statement. I believe then that all the (causes of) sicknesses appear first and foremost due to Melkor and his intervention in the Music.
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Given Elrond's reputation as a healer and Aragorn's 'hands of the King' and Ioreth's remembrance of tribal lore, it would suggest that illness does indeed have a role in the morality of Middle-earth.
Very good point...these characters did have exceptional healing powers...sickness must have occured. I think this can somewhat be related to the story of Adam and Eve- all was bliss and clean, until Eve and Adam both ate the apple. Then came sickness, decay, and death. A little different, but you get what I mean- Valinor all clean, Arda just like it, one breaks off and branches into evil, Arda now has sickness and surely knows death (I haven't yet read the Silm so forgive me if some of that was a little off, but to my knowledge that's how it went).
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