The Fellowship of the Fourth Age (Part 1): A New Beginning Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

piosenniel · 01-21-2007, 03:28 PM

Nogrod

Did you read my entire post?

The men will be unhorsed - one of them will have his sword/weapons arm broken; the other will be dazed.

Do you not think that will even the odds?

If not, I will have Rôg kill one of the men outright, leaving only one other for Khamir and Shae to do in.

Nogrod · 01-21-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by piosenniel

Nogrod
Did you read my entire post?

Yes I did. But I'm not saying this because of just your post Pio - which I think was reasonable enough - but I was trying to use it as an example of what we're doing as a writer-community... We all write reasonable enough scenarios, but they all seem to end with the ex-slaves getting the upper hand and the real fighters loosing. It would not be a problem if there would be one or two of those "lucky strikes" from "our" side against the bad losses of most of the posts, but as everyone makes them turn to the goodies it starts to look unbelievable...

Sorry to be this oneminded on this. I know it's fantasy and the Ex-slaves should beat a million dragons with their left hands anyhow if the storyline needed it...

(And yes, this grin is made with all the good intentions, no malice intended)

Nogrod · 01-21-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Yes I did.

I went back to check it and and must say I'm not wholly certain any more of the post you refer to as I couldn't find anything written by you in a long time but only a post in this discussion thread (your post in the discussion thread felt familiar and I thought I had been brave enough to actually read everything that had happed so far again today...) ... Puzzles me indeed... even though I will hold my basic point still: we (the ex-slaves) are too good in fighting.

Durelin · 01-21-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio

I'm in the midst of writing Rôg's post -- there are 2 slavers on horseback that he'll deal with; that is, he'll take down the horses. The slavers will tumble off. One will break his sword/weapons arm; the other will be somewhat dazed.

Can your character and Shae take care of the 2 men?

I believe so...though Gamal and Nasim, and even Beloan, too, could come help if need be...

Nogrod - Just remember that these ex-slaves (the original fifteen) are warriors, too, even if they don't have armour. I'd say all of them have had their fair share of battling, if on smaller scales, doing various raids against the plantations. And armour has its own drawbacks, such as slowing people down. So really outnumbering the slavers is key...and simply be prepared. If you've got two quick ex-slaves against even a well-armoured and well-armed Easterling, the ex-slaves have pretty good chances.

But you definitely have very good points, and that's just my view...I'm by no means an expert on anything battle related, hehe...

piosenniel · 01-21-2007, 04:37 PM

Nogrod

I'm referring to this post on the discussion thread - #835.

Let's just forget that scenario set up for Shae and Khamir - I will take care of the matter in another way.

~*~ Pio

Nogrod · 01-21-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by piosenniel

I'm referring to this post on the discussion thread - #835.

Let's just forget that scenario set up for Shae and Khamir - I will take care of the matter in another way.

Yeah. That was what I was referring to in the first place too... And indeed I don't think that it is reasonable to talk over that one as I think there are questions pertaining to the larger picture of affairs we should discuss now. Sorry if I used you as an example of a larger point unfairly. Sorry indeed.

F.ex. if the slavers making a breach would actually be able to create a real havoc - catching or killing something like 4-8 people (if there are 4 possibly free slavers left), it would look a bit more realistic. I think both Khala and Cuáran (as characters I have brought into this game) could be sacrificed - or those yet nameless ones.

But somehow I just think the real soldiers (the slavers) should not lose all the time...

Firefoot · 01-21-2007, 05:35 PM

I think that part of the problem is that each of us is writing for our own character - and most of us certainly aren't ready for our characters to bite the dust yet! We don't have many people writing characters whom they want killed, so that basically means that the characters we are specifically writing about wind up coming out on top in their fights. That's my simple answer.

As long as the numbers work out in the end, it should be fine. Just because it's working out well for the primary characters doesn't mean it necessarily is for everyone.

Brinniel · 01-21-2007, 05:53 PM

I've updated the death count list I made earlier in case anyone cared. I know it at least helps me figure things out...

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Originally Posted by Durelin

Personally, I'd love to have Shae and Khamir kick some more butt.

Well, I like that idea

Shae may be exhausted and injured, but she's certainly determined. I'm sure she'll find another adreneline rush as she attacks her next opponent, and you know how powerful that stuff is.

Nogrod- I meant to write a post with Eirnar and Aedhild earlier and never got around to it. I could still write that post and include plenty of devastation from the ex-slave side in general. I promise the post won't be full of heroics...

Nogrod · 01-21-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Durelin

I'm by no means an expert on anything battle related, hehe...

Happily, no one of us is in RL...

What i meant is that there is a X number of meetings between the slavers and the Ex-slaves / the FS - and if every one of them ends up with the Ex-slaves / FS winning - the all-out result looks astonishingly impossible... I have tried to be as balanced as possible in my posts and I think my results are about equal. I should possibly have made posts that get more of us killed and leaving more of the real slavers alive, I admit. But I think some of you others should think about this same thing too...

So we need more descriptions of those meetings where "our" people get crashed and lose as otherwise we will soon be needing to adjust the initial number of the slavers and raise their numbers to double our ex-slaves... I mean if every ex-slave manages to bring down two enemies, there needs to be a double numbers of the enemy to confront us. Although the preliminary idea was - if I remember it correctly - that there should be half the number of ex-slaves as the slavers attacking...

Soon we have killed as many slavers as there are ex-slaves around, even though there are women, children and the elderly composing a reasonable part of "us" while the slavers are all tough soldiers on horseback...

It just feels unbelievable, a bit too fantastic, sorry.

It's just my view of the things, though...

Durelin · 01-21-2007, 04:50 PM

Pio - If you're going to adjust those plans, it seems I should be editing my latest post pretty majorly...Shae and Khamir took down two unwounded slavers in that one, hehe...

Personally, I'd love to have Shae and Khamir kick some more butt.

01-21-2007, 03:28 PM	#1
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Nogrod Did you read my entire post? The men will be unhorsed - one of them will have his sword/weapons arm broken; the other will be dazed. Do you not think that will even the odds? If not, I will have Rôg kill one of the men outright, leaving only one other for Khamir and Shae to do in. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

01-21-2007, 04:37 PM	#5
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Nogrod I'm referring to this post on the discussion thread - #835. Let's just forget that scenario set up for Shae and Khamir - I will take care of the matter in another way. ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

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01-21-2007, 05:35 PM	#7
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	I think that part of the problem is that each of us is writing for our own character - and most of us certainly aren't ready for our characters to bite the dust yet! We don't have many people writing characters whom they want killed, so that basically means that the characters we are specifically writing about wind up coming out on top in their fights. That's my simple answer. As long as the numbers work out in the end, it should be fine. Just because it's working out well for the primary characters doesn't mean it necessarily is for everyone.

01-21-2007, 04:50 PM	#10
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Pio - If you're going to adjust those plans, it seems I should be editing my latest post pretty majorly...Shae and Khamir took down two unwounded slavers in that one, hehe... Personally, I'd love to have Shae and Khamir kick some more butt.