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Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-15-2006, 03:54 PM

Nice attempt, but it is not what I meant. And I wouldn't consider the great elf warrior being Sam's other identity, it certainly was not an alter ego he adopted, when someone saw him regularly, he definitely could not believe his disguise any longer

But you have good points which can serve as good clues. Any other guesses?

The Might · 12-17-2006, 10:05 AM

Probably it's a stupid guess...but here goes: maybe they were all alive during the War of the Ring

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-17-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Might

Probably it's a stupid guess...but here goes: maybe they were all alive during the War of the Ring

As well as Arwen, Bilbo, Círdan, Dáin, Elrond, Faramir, Gandalf, Haldir, Imrahil, Legolas, Mablung, Nob, Orofin, Pippin, Radagast, Sauron, Treebeard, Uglúk... not speaking of many others. Nope. The thing they have in common is specific for them.

The Might · 12-17-2006, 04:21 PM

hmmm...seems every time I find something that fits 4 of them the 5th is different
it is perhaps wrong, I'll try still
they all passed through the Dead Marshes
Aragorn when he captured Gollum, Gollum leading Sam and Frodo, and the WK on his foul beast

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-18-2006, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Might

hmmm...seems every time I find something that fits 4 of them the 5th is different
it is perhaps wrong, I'll try still
they all passed through the Dead Marshes
Aragorn when he captured Gollum, Gollum leading Sam and Frodo, and the WK on his foul beast

You are getting close. But there is no direct mention in the books that WK passed through the Dead Marches. Why I put them together is based on real evidence you can find in the books.

The Might · 12-18-2006, 01:01 PM

hmm...this is probably easy, but I somehow can't find the answer...

maybe because they all looked for Gollum
the WK was sent to find him
Aragorn as well, and Frodo and Sam when they sometimes lost him...
still, again they don't seem to be the only ones that did that

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-18-2006, 02:50 PM

Indeed, they were not the only ones. And Gollum certainly didn't look for himself (well, maybe he could, considering his dual identity). And again, it is not stated in the books that WK personally did search for Gollum - I could write "all the Nine" instead of just him. This might help you. My source is real evidence. I am saying that the thing they have in common is stated in the book explicitely. If it were, for example, that they all smoked pipeweed, I will place it here in the case that it was said in the book at some place, like: "...and WK was sitting there, smoking pipe", "And Frodo said: 'I'm going to take a smoke.'" - so: no deductions, no generalizations - you can read in the books about the thing they had in common (I hope I managed to explain it so that it is understandable).

12-15-2006, 03:54 PM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Nice attempt, but it is not what I meant. And I wouldn't consider the great elf warrior being Sam's other identity, it certainly was not an alter ego he adopted, when someone saw him regularly, he definitely could not believe his disguise any longer But you have good points which can serve as good clues. Any other guesses? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-17-2006, 10:05 AM	#2
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Probably it's a stupid guess...but here goes: maybe they were all alive during the War of the Ring __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-17-2006, 04:21 PM	#4
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	hmmm...seems every time I find something that fits 4 of them the 5th is different it is perhaps wrong, I'll try still they all passed through the Dead Marshes Aragorn when he captured Gollum, Gollum leading Sam and Frodo, and the WK on his foul beast __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-18-2006, 01:01 PM	#6
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	hmm...this is probably easy, but I somehow can't find the answer... maybe because they all looked for Gollum the WK was sent to find him Aragorn as well, and Frodo and Sam when they sometimes lost him... still, again they don't seem to be the only ones that did that __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-18-2006, 02:50 PM	#7
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Indeed, they were not the only ones. And Gollum certainly didn't look for himself (well, maybe he could, considering his dual identity). And again, it is not stated in the books that WK personally did search for Gollum - I could write "all the Nine" instead of just him. This might help you. My source is real evidence. I am saying that the thing they have in common is stated in the book explicitely. If it were, for example, that they all smoked pipeweed, I will place it here in the case that it was said in the book at some place, like: "...and WK was sitting there, smoking pipe", "And Frodo said: 'I'm going to take a smoke.'" - so: no deductions, no generalizations - you can read in the books about the thing they had in common (I hope I managed to explain it so that it is understandable). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

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