The Hobbit in July 2007? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-23-2006, 03:52 AM

Well, the report refers to a "reliable source" indicating that Raimi has been "approached". It's not necessailry a done deal. This may turn out to be another gambit in the war of words.

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Originally Posted by doug*platypus

At least the triumvurate of LOTR script writers would not then have their wicked way with any more of Tolkien's material, and we may get a more faithful adaptation (nice dream).

This is an important point. It is just as important, if not more so, that a decent screenplay writer is involved. And there are, I am sure, many who would do a good deal worse than the LotR triumvirate ...

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 11-25-2006, 01:08 PM

Now that it's definite that PJ will not be back on board, I have to admit some skepticism about the whole project.

The movies stayed true to the spirit, if not the letter, of the books...And now that we know the same team won't be around, it makes me even more grateful for what we already had. It could be so much worse, though there is room for some improvement. There were problems and differences, but what they produced was a coherent adaptation of the LOTR book. They worked out of well-meaning passion for the story, and it could be much, much worse. We could wind up with a writer/director team only looking to please mainstream fans (in general, that means not us), and only after the money involved. Such movies would be tired and dull and definitely not up to standard.

I don't mean to be a pessimist about the whole thing, but I just feel like PJ is the man for LOTR...even though I know that many, especially here, will not agree with me. I didn't realize how much I trusted him until I read the news and began worrying: Oh no! What's going to happen now?!

I agree with Rikae's feelings about this movie.

I just don't trust anyone else with Middle-earth. *ducks, runs, hides*

Aaron · 11-25-2006, 05:06 PM

The Hobbit without Peter Jackson may still work but I have a bad feeling that they'll do something awful.
And now...introducing Charlie Sheen as Gollum!
But seriously, there are plenty of good directors and as long as this doesn't reek of a shameless moneygrabbing scheme I'll be partially satisfied.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-26-2006, 06:28 AM

Is this what you are fearing?

Should I remove this photo again? I mean it really belongs in Mirth. . . .

Aaron · 11-26-2006, 06:31 AM

Tom Cruise? Oh man, he already ruined War of The Worlds...

But on subject I beleive that The Hobbit can succeed but I see it as being a very tense movie. The game between Gollum and Bilbo has to have an air of death around it because for me that is the most nerve-wracking part of the story.

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-26-2006, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron

Tom Cruise? Oh man, he already ruined War of The Worlds...

I suspect that we are safe.

Tom Cruise would never take a role that deliberately made him appear short ...

Aaron · 11-26-2006, 06:54 AM

Good point.
I really hope that this film can at least get made although I'd prefer it not to if an insufficient job is done as I'm sure we can all agree. But I always knew that Jackson wouldn't do it, he never seemed too enthused about the idea.
But I think it may go well, as long as it isn't given a "happy ever after" ending, I mean, the destruction and death caused by the ring will be so terrible how can the film end on a happy note?

Lalwendë · 11-26-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron

Tom Cruise? Oh man, he already ruined War of The Worlds...

But on subject I beleive that The Hobbit can succeed but I see it as being a very tense movie. The game between Gollum and Bilbo has to have an air of death around it because for me that is the most nerve-wracking part of the story.

I finally saw War of the Worlds yesterday. I was seriously wary of it because of Cruise being in it, but I had a shock in store - it was a cracking film. War of the Worlds has been a tale I've loved ever since a student teacher read us the HG Wells tale in primary school (I was only eight so you can imagine how frightening it was!), and every recent film I've seen Cruise in he's overacted and been just too intense for his own good (namely Eyes Wide Shut, The Last Samurai, Minority Report, Vanilla Sky), but he was understated and seemed like a real person in WotW.

Anyway, methinks that was a spoof ad anyhow...

I'm not so sure about Sam Raimi directing The Hobbit. Spiderman 2 was good, but I found the first one pretty boring, the Green Goblin was more funny than scary and it all seemed to be an excuse to show Kirsten Dunst in a wet t-shirt. Disappointing after the hype.

But really I don't tend to follow directors, I'm not a film buff, I just remember them if they do something notably disappointing or not. Maybe the script writing will be more important, seeing as it was what spoiled the LotR films.

A wag wot I know has suggested they hire Mike Leigh to do The Hobbit...

***Mister Underhill*** · 11-26-2006, 06:31 PM

Heh -- Leigh regular Timothy Spall isn't a half bad prospect for Bilbo. Speaking of Spall, I found Brad Silberling's take on Lemony Snicket surprisingly entertaining. He wouldn't be a bad addition to the director candidates list.

11-25-2006, 01:08 PM	#2
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	Now that it's definite that PJ will not be back on board, I have to admit some skepticism about the whole project. The movies stayed true to the spirit, if not the letter, of the books...And now that we know the same team won't be around, it makes me even more grateful for what we already had. It could be so much worse, though there is room for some improvement. There were problems and differences, but what they produced was a coherent adaptation of the LOTR book. They worked out of well-meaning passion for the story, and it could be much, much worse. We could wind up with a writer/director team only looking to please mainstream fans (in general, that means not us), and only after the money involved. Such movies would be tired and dull and definitely not up to standard. I don't mean to be a pessimist about the whole thing, but I just feel like PJ is the man for LOTR...even though I know that many, especially here, will not agree with me. I didn't realize how much I trusted him until I read the news and began worrying: Oh no! What's going to happen now?! I agree with Rikae's feelings about this movie. I just don't trust anyone else with Middle-earth. ducks, runs, hides __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back." Last edited by Azaelia of Willowbottom; 11-25-2006 at 01:17 PM.

11-25-2006, 05:06 PM	#3
Aaron Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: England Posts: 96	The Hobbit without Peter Jackson may still work but I have a bad feeling that they'll do something awful. And now...introducing Charlie Sheen as Gollum! But seriously, there are plenty of good directors and as long as this doesn't reek of a shameless moneygrabbing scheme I'll be partially satisfied. __________________ Remember, stranger, passing by: As you are now, so once was I. As I am now, so you shall be. Prepare thyself to follow me.

11-26-2006, 06:31 AM	#5
Aaron Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: England Posts: 96	Tom Cruise? Oh man, he already ruined War of The Worlds... But on subject I beleive that The Hobbit can succeed but I see it as being a very tense movie. The game between Gollum and Bilbo has to have an air of death around it because for me that is the most nerve-wracking part of the story. __________________ Remember, stranger, passing by: As you are now, so once was I. As I am now, so you shall be. Prepare thyself to follow me. Last edited by Aaron; 11-26-2006 at 06:36 AM.

11-26-2006, 06:54 AM	#7
Aaron Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: England Posts: 96	Good point. I really hope that this film can at least get made although I'd prefer it not to if an insufficient job is done as I'm sure we can all agree. But I always knew that Jackson wouldn't do it, he never seemed too enthused about the idea. But I think it may go well, as long as it isn't given a "happy ever after" ending, I mean, the destruction and death caused by the ring will be so terrible how can the film end on a happy note? __________________ Remember, stranger, passing by: As you are now, so once was I. As I am now, so you shall be. Prepare thyself to follow me. Last edited by Aaron; 11-26-2006 at 07:02 AM.

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11-26-2006, 06:31 PM	#9
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	Heh -- Leigh regular Timothy Spall isn't a half bad prospect for Bilbo. Speaking of Spall, I found Brad Silberling's take on Lemony Snicket surprisingly entertaining. He wouldn't be a bad addition to the director candidates list.