The Hobbit in July 2007? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rikae · 11-22-2006, 06:55 PM

TORn just posted this:
"Word from a reliable source indicates that Sam Raimi has been approached to direct THE HOBBIT"

***Mister Underhill*** · 11-22-2006, 07:35 PM

Ooh, Raimi -- another very interesting possibility. He's certainly more than qualified to handle the FX side of things, and his handling of the emotional side of the Spiderman franchise has been pitch-perfect so far.

Rikae · 11-22-2006, 09:24 PM

Has it been? I've never seen the Spiderman movies, which is why I didn't comment on Raimi. I'll have to go to Family Video tomorrow...

doug*platypus · 11-23-2006, 01:38 AM

Well, well, so the speculation has ended, and for good or ill we now know that there will be no PJ Hobbit. In spite of my many gripes about Jackson's version of LOTR, I do admit that given his geographical position and passion for the job, the three movies would not have been made without him, and we would have missed out on the visuals and cinematic story which expanded and breathed life into Tolkien's works. So it was with mixed feelings that I heard the breaking news.

Although it could quite easily be argued that PJ was the only man for the LOTR job, I think that The Hobbit could quite successfully be handled by another director. At least the triumvurate of LOTR script writers would not then have their wicked way with any more of Tolkien's material, and we may get a more faithful adaptation (nice dream). I suppose that the tone and narrative style of a non PJ Hobbit would differ from the trilogy, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It would probably mean that the movie could stand on its own and not simply be a prequel. I for one am looking forward to the fresh perspective which another director will bring to The Hobbit.

It would be a shame if McKellen did not return to reprise his role as the grey wizard, and something of a loss if Andy Serkis was not there to perform as Gollum, but as for the other actors I am not too fussed. If Hugo Weaving were to return as Elrond it would do much for consistency between the movies, but on the other hand I would be interested to see whether an actor more suited to the part could be found (I wasn't a big fan of Agent Elrond). As for Galadriel, Legolas and Saruman, well I would prefer if the filmmakers stuck to the story as it is, rather than expanding on it and including scenes of the White Council and Dol Guldur, although I suppose an Orlando Bloom cameo would be good for fangirls/boys.

But whoever ends up directing and starring, I will be there with my popcorn and Coke (nice plug) watching the story unfold on the big screen. I may only watch it once, if it is terrible, but I will be entertained for a few hours at least!

At least whoever directs it will have to show us Smaug the Magnificent in all his glory.

BTW, while we're speculating or fantasising about directors, may I suggest Andrew Adamson (do I have his name right?). I thoroughly enjoyed The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. That is, unless he is busy.

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-23-2006, 03:52 AM

Well, the report refers to a "reliable source" indicating that Raimi has been "approached". It's not necessailry a done deal. This may turn out to be another gambit in the war of words.

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Originally Posted by doug*platypus

At least the triumvurate of LOTR script writers would not then have their wicked way with any more of Tolkien's material, and we may get a more faithful adaptation (nice dream).

This is an important point. It is just as important, if not more so, that a decent screenplay writer is involved. And there are, I am sure, many who would do a good deal worse than the LotR triumvirate ...

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 11-25-2006, 01:08 PM

Now that it's definite that PJ will not be back on board, I have to admit some skepticism about the whole project.

The movies stayed true to the spirit, if not the letter, of the books...And now that we know the same team won't be around, it makes me even more grateful for what we already had. It could be so much worse, though there is room for some improvement. There were problems and differences, but what they produced was a coherent adaptation of the LOTR book. They worked out of well-meaning passion for the story, and it could be much, much worse. We could wind up with a writer/director team only looking to please mainstream fans (in general, that means not us), and only after the money involved. Such movies would be tired and dull and definitely not up to standard.

I don't mean to be a pessimist about the whole thing, but I just feel like PJ is the man for LOTR...even though I know that many, especially here, will not agree with me. I didn't realize how much I trusted him until I read the news and began worrying: Oh no! What's going to happen now?!

I agree with Rikae's feelings about this movie.

I just don't trust anyone else with Middle-earth. *ducks, runs, hides*

Aaron · 11-25-2006, 05:06 PM

The Hobbit without Peter Jackson may still work but I have a bad feeling that they'll do something awful.
And now...introducing Charlie Sheen as Gollum!
But seriously, there are plenty of good directors and as long as this doesn't reek of a shameless moneygrabbing scheme I'll be partially satisfied.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-26-2006, 06:28 AM

Is this what you are fearing?

Should I remove this photo again? I mean it really belongs in Mirth. . . .

11-23-2006, 01:38 AM	#4
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	Well, well, so the speculation has ended, and for good or ill we now know that there will be no PJ Hobbit. In spite of my many gripes about Jackson's version of LOTR, I do admit that given his geographical position and passion for the job, the three movies would not have been made without him, and we would have missed out on the visuals and cinematic story which expanded and breathed life into Tolkien's works. So it was with mixed feelings that I heard the breaking news. Although it could quite easily be argued that PJ was the only man for the LOTR job, I think that The Hobbit could quite successfully be handled by another director. At least the triumvurate of LOTR script writers would not then have their wicked way with any more of Tolkien's material, and we may get a more faithful adaptation (nice dream). I suppose that the tone and narrative style of a non PJ Hobbit would differ from the trilogy, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It would probably mean that the movie could stand on its own and not simply be a prequel. I for one am looking forward to the fresh perspective which another director will bring to The Hobbit. It would be a shame if McKellen did not return to reprise his role as the grey wizard, and something of a loss if Andy Serkis was not there to perform as Gollum, but as for the other actors I am not too fussed. If Hugo Weaving were to return as Elrond it would do much for consistency between the movies, but on the other hand I would be interested to see whether an actor more suited to the part could be found (I wasn't a big fan of Agent Elrond). As for Galadriel, Legolas and Saruman, well I would prefer if the filmmakers stuck to the story as it is, rather than expanding on it and including scenes of the White Council and Dol Guldur, although I suppose an Orlando Bloom cameo would be good for fangirls/boys. But whoever ends up directing and starring, I will be there with my popcorn and Coke (nice plug) watching the story unfold on the big screen. I may only watch it once, if it is terrible, but I will be entertained for a few hours at least! At least whoever directs it will have to show us Smaug the Magnificent in all his glory. BTW, while we're speculating or fantasising about directors, may I suggest Andrew Adamson (do I have his name right?). I thoroughly enjoyed The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. That is, unless he is busy. __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'. Last edited by dougplatypus; 11-23-2006 at 01:51 AM.*

11-25-2006, 01:08 PM	#6
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	Now that it's definite that PJ will not be back on board, I have to admit some skepticism about the whole project. The movies stayed true to the spirit, if not the letter, of the books...And now that we know the same team won't be around, it makes me even more grateful for what we already had. It could be so much worse, though there is room for some improvement. There were problems and differences, but what they produced was a coherent adaptation of the LOTR book. They worked out of well-meaning passion for the story, and it could be much, much worse. We could wind up with a writer/director team only looking to please mainstream fans (in general, that means not us), and only after the money involved. Such movies would be tired and dull and definitely not up to standard. I don't mean to be a pessimist about the whole thing, but I just feel like PJ is the man for LOTR...even though I know that many, especially here, will not agree with me. I didn't realize how much I trusted him until I read the news and began worrying: Oh no! What's going to happen now?! I agree with Rikae's feelings about this movie. I just don't trust anyone else with Middle-earth. ducks, runs, hides __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back." Last edited by Azaelia of Willowbottom; 11-25-2006 at 01:17 PM.

11-25-2006, 05:06 PM	#7
Aaron Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: England Posts: 96	The Hobbit without Peter Jackson may still work but I have a bad feeling that they'll do something awful. And now...introducing Charlie Sheen as Gollum! But seriously, there are plenty of good directors and as long as this doesn't reek of a shameless moneygrabbing scheme I'll be partially satisfied. __________________ Remember, stranger, passing by: As you are now, so once was I. As I am now, so you shall be. Prepare thyself to follow me.

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11-22-2006, 06:55 PM	#1
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	TORn just posted this: "Word from a reliable source indicates that Sam Raimi has been approached to direct THE HOBBIT"

11-22-2006, 07:35 PM	#2
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	Ooh, Raimi -- another very interesting possibility. He's certainly more than qualified to handle the FX side of things, and his handling of the emotional side of the Spiderman franchise has been pitch-perfect so far.

11-22-2006, 09:24 PM	#3
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Has it been? I've never seen the Spiderman movies, which is why I didn't comment on Raimi. I'll have to go to Family Video tomorrow...