The Fellowship of the Fourth Age (Part 1): A New Beginning Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Durelin · 11-19-2006, 12:11 PM

Congratulations, Folwren! I'm glad everything's alright!

And...my save's filled, finally. I hope it's believable. I guess I just decided that Vrór is a little obsessive compulsive...

Nogrod · 11-20-2006, 12:27 PM

Good to hear that Folwren. Birth is a miracle everytime it happens but especially in these situations. Congrats to the fresh auntie. You're next, then?

And apology to all but I have been werewolfing a bit too much lately to top my RL frenzy. But from now on I think it's getting easier on both fronts (and I need a break from that addictive game anyhow).

So I have been looking at the thread and have a few questions.

So is it alright if Beloan is with the "foot-soldiers"? Should Khamir be there too (where else could he be?) and how about Adnan?

How many of them there should be? If there are approximately 50-50 balance of men and women, about, and there would be more women in "safety" and some among the archers/slingers, so there probably wouldn't be any in the footsoldiers? (Anyone wishing to cast her character in there?) So if there are something like 10+ footsoldiers (men), like 11-12 or something, I would think it reasonable. We need to have men in the "cavalry" and among the ranged-attack team too and there should be at most 25-30 males in the whole company (not counting the Fellowship).

How about the order of things happening (about)? Athwen rushing towards the trap is first and has begun. Then as Athwen reaches the trap and tries to evade, the first riders fall into the trap. Enter the ranged attack (it must be after the trap is sprung for otherwise the slavers might lift off their pursuit of Athwen and actually attack the shooters not falling to the trap in the first place). As the ranged attack starts the foot soldiers charge to hit the fallen riders. After that the archers should pick those not in the thick of the fight around the trap as not to hit their fellows. But to help the footsoldiers then, enter the little "cavalry" of ours...

Does that sound reasonable as a vague overall plan of affairs? As we all know, anything might happen, but as a general battle-plan?

Folwren · 11-20-2006, 01:25 PM

Oh, my! Oh my! I just figured it out! Or maybe I figured it out. Would certainly add something interesting.

Up till now, I really hadn't figured out just how Athwen was going to escape the tunnel and trench. I had never thought that stopping was an option. But I realize that it is. If Athwen stops, but the slavers know that in just a few yards ahead the slaves probably are hiding somewhere, then only one or two men will stop to get Athwen while the others plunge ahead.

Athwen will end up being caught, I'm afraid (well, not afraid, really, because it could be some exciting writing). Dorran may go into conniptions, but we'll manage, I think.

What I am seeing in my mind is Athwen charging full tilt ahead, the slavers close on her heels. She comes to the trench. She either realizes that she's not in the write place and can't see where the safe place to jump is so she simply stops OR her horse balks at the gap and stops. The slavers come swarming up. One or two stop to take possesion of Athwen, the others leap the trench and meet the tunnel. Perhaps a couple, as Nogrod suggested, swerve off and miss it altogether because they see some of the slaves.

What becomes of Athwen at this point, I'm not sure. They want to take her prisoner? So, they tie her up and put her back on her horse to wait for their further orders......but I think before they could manage to get her tied, Dorran would have arrived. I don't know.

What do you all think?

-- Folwren

Durelin · 11-20-2006, 01:33 PM

Nogrod - Khamir, Adnan, and Beloan are all going to be with the footsoldiers. Someone is leading a small group of archers, though I'm not sure who. If it doesn't show up elsewhere, I'll mention it in my next post for Khamir.

Edit 1: I think your order of things happening is perfect, except I'm not certain about when the riders should attack...and of course, when they should and when they do are two different things.

Folwren - Oooh, I like that! Though another prisoner situation is pretty insane. I imagine her actual capture will be brief? She will be 'rescued' during the battle. I do wonder how they would work a 'hostage' situation during the fight...I think one or two slavers stopping to grab her works well, and then those two would simply hold her a little away from things. I think that seems feasible. And then the rescue will likely be from Dorran. Oh, how fun. That makes Athwen even cooler.

Edit 2: And back to the order of events...if Athwen gets captured, if the "calvary" are supposed to wait, Dorran might just jump the gun.

Child of the 7th Age · 11-20-2006, 01:43 PM

Save filled.

OK....you didn't think Imak was going to make this easy for you by having all his men head straight for the trench. He's done this too many times.

With the superiority of horsepower, he feels comfortable splitting his forces. Admittedly he may have miscalculated in the sense that he didn't realize there would be a small but real counter cavalry charge. This splitting of the attackers makes it both harder and easier for the good guys, since there is less of a concentrated assault but they are going to have to scramble in different directions.

Five of Imak's men are riding north and west. They are going around the back of camp and looking for the women and children who are hidden. You can see what their orders are if they find them.

That leaves about 10 men who are safe and intact and are riding south right behind Imak, planning on approaching the camp from that angle. Another 10 of his men have disobeyed and/or not heard his orders, and they are heading straight for Athwen and the trench disaster. These young men would be very happy to take Athwen prisoner, though I suspect a few of them will be taken out by the trench. Still it only takes one or two to throw her over their saddle and start racing off with their prize!

Folwren · 11-20-2006, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durelin

Folwren - Oooh, I like that! Though another prisoner situation is pretty insane. I imagine her actual capture will be brief? She will be 'rescued' during the battle.

Yes, right. I was not intending to have her succesfully dragged off like Kwell and Azhar were and being held prisoner. That would be very, very, very bad for her.

And, Child, good for you, not making them all falling for the trap. I'll go read your post and then possibly write my own.

EDIT: Child - one thing only in your post. Athwen has blond hair, not dark. Sorry. It is long, but she's got the regular, light rohanian coloring to her...

-- Folwren

Child of the 7th Age · 11-20-2006, 03:39 PM

Thanks, I will edit. I should have checked the profile, but I am trying to play catch up from last week and am doing things by the seat of my pants.

Nogrod · 11-21-2006, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Child of the 7th Age

OK....you didn't think Imak was going to make this easy for you by having all his men head straight for the trench. He's done this too many times.

Sure. But that has to be our inintial plan (I mean the ex-slaves plan). We'll see then what happens. But this requires that everyone reads the posts to come very carefully so that we can keep up something like a plausible scenario here...

Durelin: What would Adnan think about the situation? I was thinking that the "leaders" would wish to put him into the second row as he's young and inexperienced. Would he be happy about it or wish to be in the front? I could mention something between Hadith and Adnan on that matter, but then I should need to know his basic attitude... (Hadith will be called to the first row)

11-20-2006, 12:27 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Good to hear that Folwren. Birth is a miracle everytime it happens but especially in these situations. Congrats to the fresh auntie. You're next, then? And apology to all but I have been werewolfing a bit too much lately to top my RL frenzy. But from now on I think it's getting easier on both fronts (and I need a break from that addictive game anyhow). So I have been looking at the thread and have a few questions. So is it alright if Beloan is with the "foot-soldiers"? Should Khamir be there too (where else could he be?) and how about Adnan? How many of them there should be? If there are approximately 50-50 balance of men and women, about, and there would be more women in "safety" and some among the archers/slingers, so there probably wouldn't be any in the footsoldiers? (Anyone wishing to cast her character in there?) So if there are something like 10+ footsoldiers (men), like 11-12 or something, I would think it reasonable. We need to have men in the "cavalry" and among the ranged-attack team too and there should be at most 25-30 males in the whole company (not counting the Fellowship). How about the order of things happening (about)? Athwen rushing towards the trap is first and has begun. Then as Athwen reaches the trap and tries to evade, the first riders fall into the trap. Enter the ranged attack (it must be after the trap is sprung for otherwise the slavers might lift off their pursuit of Athwen and actually attack the shooters not falling to the trap in the first place). As the ranged attack starts the foot soldiers charge to hit the fallen riders. After that the archers should pick those not in the thick of the fight around the trap as not to hit their fellows. But to help the footsoldiers then, enter the little "cavalry" of ours... Does that sound reasonable as a vague overall plan of affairs? As we all know, anything might happen, but as a general battle-plan? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 11-20-2006 at 12:34 PM.

11-20-2006, 01:25 PM	#3
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Oh, my! Oh my! I just figured it out! Or maybe I figured it out. Would certainly add something interesting. Up till now, I really hadn't figured out just how Athwen was going to escape the tunnel and trench. I had never thought that stopping was an option. But I realize that it is. If Athwen stops, but the slavers know that in just a few yards ahead the slaves probably are hiding somewhere, then only one or two men will stop to get Athwen while the others plunge ahead. Athwen will end up being caught, I'm afraid (well, not afraid, really, because it could be some exciting writing). Dorran may go into conniptions, but we'll manage, I think. What I am seeing in my mind is Athwen charging full tilt ahead, the slavers close on her heels. She comes to the trench. She either realizes that she's not in the write place and can't see where the safe place to jump is so she simply stops OR her horse balks at the gap and stops. The slavers come swarming up. One or two stop to take possesion of Athwen, the others leap the trench and meet the tunnel. Perhaps a couple, as Nogrod suggested, swerve off and miss it altogether because they see some of the slaves. What becomes of Athwen at this point, I'm not sure. They want to take her prisoner? So, they tie her up and put her back on her horse to wait for their further orders......but I think before they could manage to get her tied, Dorran would have arrived. I don't know. What do you all think? -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

11-20-2006, 01:33 PM	#4
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Nogrod - Khamir, Adnan, and Beloan are all going to be with the footsoldiers. Someone is leading a small group of archers, though I'm not sure who. If it doesn't show up elsewhere, I'll mention it in my next post for Khamir. Edit 1: I think your order of things happening is perfect, except I'm not certain about when the riders should attack...and of course, when they should and when they do are two different things. Folwren - Oooh, I like that! Though another prisoner situation is pretty insane. I imagine her actual capture will be brief? She will be 'rescued' during the battle. I do wonder how they would work a 'hostage' situation during the fight...I think one or two slavers stopping to grab her works well, and then those two would simply hold her a little away from things. I think that seems feasible. And then the rescue will likely be from Dorran. Oh, how fun. That makes Athwen even cooler. Edit 2: And back to the order of events...if Athwen gets captured, if the "calvary" are supposed to wait, Dorran might just jump the gun. Last edited by Durelin; 11-20-2006 at 01:36 PM.

11-20-2006, 01:43 PM	#5
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Save filled. OK....you didn't think Imak was going to make this easy for you by having all his men head straight for the trench. He's done this too many times. With the superiority of horsepower, he feels comfortable splitting his forces. Admittedly he may have miscalculated in the sense that he didn't realize there would be a small but real counter cavalry charge. This splitting of the attackers makes it both harder and easier for the good guys, since there is less of a concentrated assault but they are going to have to scramble in different directions. Five of Imak's men are riding north and west. They are going around the back of camp and looking for the women and children who are hidden. You can see what their orders are if they find them. That leaves about 10 men who are safe and intact and are riding south right behind Imak, planning on approaching the camp from that angle. Another 10 of his men have disobeyed and/or not heard his orders, and they are heading straight for Athwen and the trench disaster. These young men would be very happy to take Athwen prisoner, though I suspect a few of them will be taken out by the trench. Still it only takes one or two to throw her over their saddle and start racing off with their prize! __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote. Last edited by Child of the 7th Age; 11-20-2006 at 01:59 PM.

11-20-2006, 03:39 PM	#7
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Thanks, I will edit. I should have checked the profile, but I am trying to play catch up from last week and am doing things by the seat of my pants. __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

11-19-2006, 12:11 PM	#1
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Congratulations, Folwren! I'm glad everything's alright! And...my save's filled, finally. I hope it's believable. I guess I just decided that Vrór is a little obsessive compulsive...

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