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Old 11-19-2006, 08:00 AM   #1
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If Farael is the wolf and will be gone as he said he will be, we might yet be saved as no wolf will be rushing in to claim victory toDay.

If CoD is a wolf the same thing will happen: no rushing in wolves to be seen toDay.

So if no one claims victory before the last moments of the Day myself and Valier need to come up with a choice between the two.

If Valier is a wolf (which I consider at the moment most likely of you three), we're dead already unless me and CoD vote her before she gets back online.

But if I'm wrong here and vote for Valier the innocent, then CoD, if wolf, will be let out from the tight spot he is now and will carry the Day and the game...


If Valier is a wolf she will come and claim victory by voting CoD. If she is not, she will come in with a complaint of the following:

In Valier's play there seems to be a pattern and a logic - albeit quite a bold one and CoD's voting Naria twice looks pretty unwolvish.

++ Valier

I'm looking worwards to you entering Valier. If you come in before CoD and do not claim victory but protest my vote, I will retract it.

CoD, if you're the wolf...

But if you CoD are innocent, remember that if Valier has already been in and wailing for my vote and not claiming victory by voting you, then she is not the wolf - and thence Farael is!

A lot depends just on who comes in the next...
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Old 11-19-2006, 08:19 AM   #2
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++Valier

If only to save myself...

Edit: More thoughts to come.

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Old 11-19-2006, 09:10 AM   #3
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Thanks CoD! You made just what I hoped you would as we have now eliminated Farael's vote and are back on the zero-point. That is best to us all.

Why so? Look at the following.

If Valier indeed is the wolf she can't come in and take her victory just by voting you as she has now gathered two votes first. So we are now secured against that possibility.

Whether CoD starts to look like the wolf, I may retract my vote on Valier and vote him instead and he might be lynched.

And we all have now time and breathing space also to consider Farael without forcefully needing to disregard him because of previous voting.

So back to the drawingboard and really considering this seriously, everyone. And let's stay careful with voting from this on. And I do hope you two stick to this seriously toDay. I will interpret quietness heavily suspicious as avoidance of discussion that would be tempting for a wolf indeed.


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Remember Farael will not come and retract so his vote stays. CoD and myself may retract once and Valier has two votes left.

Farael --> CoD (CoD1) - will not be retracted
Nogrod --> Valier (CoD1, Valier1) - subject to change
CoD --> Valier (CoD1, Valier2) - changeable
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Old 11-19-2006, 09:43 AM   #4
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Indeed.

If Farael is the wolf, he may have been hoping that Valier would show up to vote for me. Voting first for me would be the safe vote, and since his is non-retractable, all he needs to do is entice one person to finish the job. And he has been suspicious of me before (practically the whole game?), and has voted for me before, so it won't seem that odd to just vote CoD.

Maybe I am over-thinking all of this, but it does feel quite 'safe' to do it that way. His hastiness in voting for me feels off. Would an ordinary villagers really vote that quickly, knowing he has a non-retractable vote? Unless he was really, really sure of himself, I'm inclined to think not.
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:52 AM   #5
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wow I go to sleep and look what happens.....I am the wrong choice I assure you and I have no desire to die now and let the village lose to this mangy wolf. What else is there to say? If you want to lose, go ahead kill me. But come on now. Don't you want to win? There must be something else we can say or do, so that we assure a village win.
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:57 AM   #6
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I am the wrong choice I assure you and I have no desire to die now and let the village lose to this mangy wolf. What else is there to say? If you want to lose, go ahead kill me. But come on now. Don't you want to win? There must be something else we can say or do, so that we assure a village win.
You surely know there is lots of other things to do... How about putting forwards a point or two to help us?
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:06 AM   #7
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*sigh* I have looked over CoD's post several times and I just can't see why he doesn't look bad to you Nogrod. He has done VERY little. His votes for Naria are not odd if he was a wolf. He has been pretty safe from getting lynched so why not set himself up as best as possible to look innocent in the end. He is a follower, he votes for people who others have suspected, and not who he truely thinks is a real baddie threat. He has just coasted. Point in case you vote for me Nogrod and just what you said would happen did. the last wolf jumped on your vote for me just 20 minutes after you voted. And wasn't it convenient that I wasn't around.
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