Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXVI - Úcenite Valto

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Di

But I never get to play with Esty, I don't want her to die right away.

Oh, that's fine with me. I never commited to killing her today.

Originally Posted by Esty

Now, I enjoy getting called "attractive" by young men, but does it have to be in the context of "attractive werewolf?!

I think pointy teeth are sexy. So sue me.

Originally Posted by Di

Diamond18 is not evil. She has never been evil. She will never be evil. So let it be written, so let it be done.

I completely forgot about that rule. That totally changes my mind. You're off my lynch list, Di. Who should I replace you with?

Nogrod, I also spent a bit of time pondering SPM's posts regarding his knowledge of the rules. However, I found that I could spin him either way, WW or ordo, and so decided to leave him alone for the time being and see how things develop. There are a couple things in his post that I have flagged for future reference, and if certain things happen then I'll go back to it and make a decision.

Originally Posted by Ang

I have therefore decided that if phantom is a wolf, he is probably an extra wolf, thrown in to be lynched on Day 1. He might not even have been told that he is such...

Honestly, I could see this being done to me. The question is, will Fea, after pegging me as a WW in the narration, reduce the WW count to one, and only after the next one dies let the village know that actually there is yet another.

Originally Posted by Di

tp is an innocent, but he is a special sort of innocent. You can't kill him. Even if we vote to lynch him, or the wovles try to kill him, he simply won't die.

Okay, you are just plain scary. Fea's going to be ticked when she sees someone has already guessed one of the primary gags we planned for this village.

Now for a bit of speculation causes shivers down my gaming spine: what if Feamoderator is the third werewolf? Is that completely outside the realm of possibility?

No.

And also, I thought I'd mention that Fea is absolutely loving us right now. We've managed to make her, a non-player, the center of this village.

Which is something I'm sure she was hoping to accomplish by removing most strategy and choosing only individuals she is familiar with.

Originally Posted by Ang

++THE PHANTOM

I saw that coming yesterday.

But I also know you'll change your vote before the day is through, so no harm done.

(and yes, I realize that my arrogant declaration has made it more likely that you will not change your vote)

Originally Posted by Boro

If I'm killed at night lynch Diamond.

What if you're lynched during the day? Still lynch Di, or someone else?

[Boromir88]

No sane innocent villager would want to lynch me...I'm only a kill target. So, if killed at night lynch Diamond. You would have to understand our past to know the reason behind it...I can say no more.

[mormegil]

I am not nearly caught up as I work and am busier than normal. But from what I read I feel it a bit specious to believe Esty would be a wolf based on the fact that phantom and Ang would want her to. I believe Fea smarter than this and would know that many of us would want to see Esty as a wolf, my included. Honestly though, I could see her having the phantom as a wolf just to see him handle the pressure and 'play' with him so to speak. So if we are trying to assess how Fea would behave I would vote the phantom as my first pick.

[Nogrod]

Honestly though, I could see her having the phantom as a wolf just to see him handle the pressure and 'play' with him so to speak. So if we are trying to assess how Fea would behave I would vote the phantom as my first pick.

I would agree, but then again... and this is the slippery slope this approach falls into quite fast.

It would be quite easy to see Fea picking Roa as a wolf to see how she could manage with this crowd. We all know the stunning performances she has given us in previous games, especially as a baddie. It would be entertaining.

But shouldn't she also pick Diamond just for the reason Di gave us as the rule of her always being the innocent?

And Kath has always made a fantastic wolf as she seems to survive long in the games (at least by my "lorebooks"), she would be the wolf of Fea's choice if she wishes the game to go on for more than a couple of Days...

Or...

As you see. You can come up with a good reason for Fea picking about anyone to be a wolf in this game. So I'm not so sure how much this kind of approach is of help to us.

And she still might have made the choises in ways we have no idea about...

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by morm

I could see her having the phantom as a wolf just to see him handle the pressure

What pressure?

Strategy and analysis is what I do. Strategy and analysis is what has been taken out of this village by the format and rules. Therefore I feel absolutely no pressure to win at all. Pressure can only exist in the presence of expectations, and being a rational sort of chap (as you know) I can't help but have no expectations for this little adventure.

By surviving to the end as a WW I wouldn't be proving my greatness. I would only be proving that the villagers had bad luck in lynching and I had good luck in killing. Does that sound like the sort of thing that would be attractive to an ego like me? And also, do you think Fea would choose me to be one of her precious two WWs when the very rules she has supplied would take away from me the very things that would make me a good WW choice in the first place?

In a regular village I could see it. In this village- no. Fea's too smart to pick me, and she knows good and well that I wouldn't want to be picked.

[Anguirel]

One of the wolves was randomised. No one can be ruled out.

I shall stick to my vote to test the bounds of possibility, unless I have some new, brilliant plan...

[Diamond18]

I completely forgot about that rule. That totally changes my mind. You're off my lynch list, Di. Who should I replace you with?

Boromir, of course. Have you not been paying attention?

If I'm killed at night lynch Diamond.

I agree completely.

However, as I'm not a wolf, and can't kill him at night, the following is my only recourse:

++Boromir

I may or may not return later.

[Mithalwen]

I am here and catching up. I have also been pondering Sauce's interest in the rules and am tipping towards to thinking that it is merely the lawyer looking for a loophole. However it is not impossible that it is a bluff .... however ... I need to catch up.

If it comes down to an arbitrary choice it may have to be Kath for me - she was the pick of my random villager selection procedure.... I hope it won't ..after all in a parallel universe she is my twin ....

[Anguirel]

It should be pointed out that phantom is not the only player who, by his plodding logic, is "too obvious" to be picked. Eomer and LMP have almost as telling claims, and possibly also me; which my the phantomial system rules out almost a third of the population.

I say we act as if both wolves were decided randomly; Fea's choice is not necessarily going to rely on who has had the highest profile frolicking with her, in some form or another, on the Downs.

I would still like to see the phantom lynched, in a spirit of charity, to give him a fair chance at joining the Fenris Pack. Also, by his own admission, his talents are superfluous here...