WWJ XIII: 'Til Death Do We LARP

[Nogrod]

Naria states a RL reason and somehow that's it. We must be able to trust that kind of announcements even though we might feel very bad about them... I would be quite ready to vote for Volo or Naria toDay, but seemingly I can't. I just hope neither of them is a wolf as then I might say that their possible victory was gained in an unsportsmanlike fashion.

But that makes concentrating toDay a bit easier.

As I said, I don't see myself voting for Boro, Lommy, Di or Valier toDay.

I'm not happy with that, but one has to draw some lines somewhere. Both Boro and Lommy seem to have been supporting myself somewhat and that feels nice but also sends some alarm-bells ringing (I remember one of my grandfathers who was a baddie fooling Boro just the same way; being friendly and openly trusting). But still they seem to be reasonable and quite vocal. Both are good things for the game as a vocal wolf has a zillion times more possibilities to slip than a quiet one - and they make the game more entertaining... Di I could see softly turning the village to her favourite direction (including myself yesterDay) and Valier could be just the Wormtongue we accused Ang yesterDay.

Still, without further evidence or ideas I will not concentrate on them either, at least toDay.

So what does this exclusion leave me with?
CaptainofDespair
Durelin
Farael
Gurthang
Rune

I'm not sure if we have more than one wolf in here, but I definitively believe there is at least one.

I'll try to see if there is anything to justify a vote in there.

EDIT: X'd with Di & Lommy

[Valier]

I too have the same list you do Nogrod and with the little talk right now I am finding it hard to pick who I should vote for. If anyone else is around I would love to hear what they have thought of. So many of the votes are noncommital today.

[CaptainofDespair]

I do not like this casual voting by Naria. Real life reason or not, quickly voting without even the slightest reasoning is highly suspicious, especially as the Day is winding down.

I would very much like to vote for Gurthang, but this new revelation is disturbing. Naria may well acquire my vote.

Edit: Cross posted with Rune.

[Valier]

(OOC I know Naria in RL and she is really truly vomity flu sick, so please donot hold that against her or vote for her just for this reason.)

[Nogrod]

Gurthang --> Durelin (Durelin1)
Boromir --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang1)
Naria --> CoD (Durelin1, Gurthang1, CoD1)
Diamond --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang1, CoD1, Naria1)
Lommy --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang2, CoD1, Naria1)
Rune --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang2, CoD1, Naria2)

CoD is continuing with the amazingly straightforward way of suspecting all those who vote for him and trusting those who don't... I don't know what to make of it. As such - if he's innocent - it's no good and does not serve us in any way but to generate unwanted rivalries and confusion (a cobbler still? I was quite ready to forget that suspicion yesterDay evening).

Gurthang's voting is downright horrible - and he has sticked around toDay but still he seems offering little and making sure his votes are the most safe. I have no lorebook on him (or it has gotten lost). Is this the way he usually plays? I had a belief (from somewhere) that he is an active and "substantial" player. In this game he has not shown either. A wolf then?

I'll try to see for better arguments for the people in the list I posted the last time soon. These were just initials...

[Nogrod]

Where are you people? Half of us left to vote still (minus Volo who is away).

Both Durelinand Farael play differently than my lorebooks tell me. Durelin is much more active and Farael a lot more milder and friendly.

The latter I found more disturbing.

Rune I just find troubling. His vote for Naria could be seen as a safe one (if it does not happen that we lynch her and she turns out to be a wolf).

Some other opinions?

My list of suspects to vote now would look something like:
Farael
Gurthang
Rune

[Valier]

I do find it odd CoD that you now just flip flop and say you may vote for Naria when earlier you were willing to say that she looked innocent to you. Your actions still scream Cobbler to me. But I do think Gurthangs actions warrent a good stern look too. He votes early says he may not be back, then sticks around for quite awhile and defends himself better...hmmmm

[CaptainofDespair]

Originally Posted by Valier

I do find it odd CoD that you now just flip flop and say you may vote for Naria when earlier you were willing to say that she looked innocent to you. Your actions still scream Cobbler to me. But I do think Gurthangs actions warrent a good stern look too. He votes early says he may not be back, then sticks around for quite awhile and defends himself better...hmmmm

Looks can be deceiving. Earlier I was willing to forgive the prior day's accusations. However, a rather odd and reasonless vote warrants that I look at her again with a very critical eye. I may very well leave her be.

And since when do opinions have to be written in stone, Valier?

Since there is not much time left, and that I must be getting to my work, I am going to have to play my hand.

Gurthang is an easy candidate to vote for. However, I will not jump on his wagon quite yet. Naria, however, has accused me twice. The second of those had no reasoning at all.

++Naria

Edit: Cross-posted with Durelin

[Nogrod]

[QUOTE=Nogrod]Gurthang --> Durelin (Durelin1)
Boromir --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang1)
Naria --> CoD (Durelin1, Gurthang1, CoD1)
Diamond --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang1, CoD1, Naria1)
Lommy --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang2, CoD1, Naria1)
Rune --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang2, CoD1, Naria2)
Durelin --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang3, CoD1, Naria2)
CoD --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang3, CoD1, Naria3)

If it is only Valier and me in here, we are again in a hard spot... It is Gurthang or Naria then.

Anyone else around?

[Nogrod]

I just hope Farael turns in, if he is an innocent! If he is a villain, may the "not voting for two days" -rule swallow him!

And Gurthang, good to see you. Unhappily we're talking of minutes here...

You sure come in late. If it's RL, no problem, but as you didn't say it is, that's more than suspicious...

[Farael]

Well, I haven't had time to read everything properly, but I'll post a vote at least? if I'm not too late....

++Durelin
To avoid mod-fire.

[Farael]

Ok, I have done some catch-up and finally can say something.

First thing of all --Durelin

I still think you are playing it too safe, and you may be a cobbler or a confused ordo, but there's something that bugs me a bit more.

Now, I know that this vote is highly ceremonial, since Gurthang is dead regardless of what I do, but howcome we are all too quick to forgive [B}CoD[/B]

And I mean REAL quick... for crying out loud, he has been suspecting those who suspect him and forgiving those who no longer suspect him. What kind of reasoning is that? And more disturbingly, howcome no-one is really calling him on it?

++CoD

Tomorrow (game time) if RL does not get in the way again, I shall take a good look, both at him and at those who are all to willing to forget about him.

[Nogrod]

Aren't we already 40 minutes over the deadline?

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Gurthang's voting is downright horrible - and he has sticked around toDay but still he seems offering little and making sure his votes are the most safe. I have no lorebook on him (or it has gotten lost). Is this the way he usually plays? I had a belief (from somewhere) that he is an active and "substantial" player. In this game he has not shown either. A wolf then?

Except for that last question, you're pretty spot-on. I was highly active in previous games, but have little time to properly apply myself now. Which saddens me greatly. As per that, I shall not waste time trying to defend myself, as I am not much of an asset to the village. All I will say is I'm an ordinary innocent, and you may take that anywhere you want. (As I'm sure you will. )

Durelin's vote for me speaks in her favor. I think a wolf would be more fearful that people would see it as being 'jumpy'. Also her earlier post outlining possibilities leads me to think she's innocent. It was like she was thinking out loud (as I have sometimes done) and wolves will think quietly and censor everything they say. So, I'm clearing her for now.

--Durelin

(I'm still under the impression that I can do this. If not, someone please correct me.)

Since time is getting short, I'll scan as much as I can. Specifically, CoD.

[Valier]

I find it odd that you show up now Gurthang and change your vote. You don't have much time to browse the thread now. This makes me even more suspisious of you.

++Gurthang

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Valier

I find it odd that you show up now Gurthang and change your vote. You don't have much time to browse the thread now. This makes me even more suspisious of you.

++Gurthang

I must say I agree with Valier here. Were you innocent, you would have popped in much earlier...

++ Gurthang

I hope we do get it right this time.

[Nogrod]

Although it's sad if you fooled us with non-existent RL reasons - and even more sad if we did not believe your RL excuses... We'll see soon who was the fool.

[Nogrod]

Those not voted yet:
CaptainofDespair
Durelin
Farael
Nogrod
Valier
Volo

Of these Volo is away and will not vote.

Myself, Valier and CoD seem to be around. Durelin I believe to stick in before the deadline.

Will Farael vote toDay? Is his inactivity due to the insurmountable RL issues or something else (including a non-interest with being an ordo as some people seem to have?)?

We still have all the options open.

[Durelin]

If Naria is too ill to really participate, then I will not go after her. Personally, I feel that she actually should not have voted then, if she could not even read through the game (which, again, is perfectly understandable). Though now that I notice CoD's edit to his post, his reasoning is really...bothersome. Maybe he is the Cobbler. And now that I think about it, being a completely suicidal Cobbler isn't against his nature.

Ugh...I feel like I'm wasting time on him, though. He's just been...useless.

I do not want to vote for Naria based on the circumstances, so that leaves me with Gurthang. I'm beginning to feel like he might be the Cobbler if not a wolf, if CoD isn't the Cobbler...and I have less reason to think he is. Though it isn't necessarily against his nature to be so 'suicidal,' in my opinion, I think he might be a little smarter about it if he was the Cobbler.

I need to leave, unfortunately... No one is standing out to me except for CoD and Gurthang. The only person who I can really pinpoint bad feelings about is Boro.

I must vote, so...

++Gurthang

Edit: Cross-posted with Val and Nogrod

[Nogrod]

I see voting Naria unfair if and when she has a RL reason to stay out.

Who then?

Farael?
Gurthang?
Rune?

That doesn't mean I think all the others innocent - as I said Boro's and Lommy's trust feel nice and suspicious at the same time and even though I have now said I don't vote for off-liners Volo or Naria, it doesn't mean I trust them, on the contrary.

I just don't know.

And we are short on time...