How would you have gone about more successfully toppling Sauron ? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Bêthberry · 11-09-2006, 10:19 AM

Well, it could all have been side-stepped if Elrond and Cirdan were given greater powers of persuasion and Isildur not allowed to be the vain, arrogant, pig-headed type he was.

That would have allowed The Professor to write an extensive piece on weregild and revenge, much as he did on chivalry and heroism. After all, death in battle can hardly be called wrongful death, so weregild really didn't apply, despite Isildur's claims.

This might have allowed The Professor also to write his own Silm instead of pouring all his sub-creative energies into LotR. Of course, that would have denied us the opportunity to berate or praise Tolkien Jr. for his compilation.

the phantom · 11-09-2006, 11:17 AM

What about a catapult?

mormegil · 11-09-2006, 01:34 PM

Yes Elrond simply could have pushed Isildur.

doug*platypus · 11-11-2006, 12:10 AM

LOTR... the kung fu version.

May not make a good book, but would solve the Sauron problem in only one movie!

Step 1: a whole lotta kung fu training scenes.

Step 2: Gandalf and his posse (a different fellowship from the original, including Glorfindel and other bad @ss elves) take on the 9 riders, Sauron's personal bodyguard. Gandalf alone walks out of the ensuing mayhem alive, with the Ring.

Step 3: unarmed kung fu battle between Gandalf and Sauron, in the Sammath Naur. For the coup de grâce, Gandalf sends the dark lord soaring into the fiery bowels of the mountain with a flying kick.

The Ring survives... room for a sequel... heck no, a franchise!

I'm surprised Peter Jackson didn't think of this.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 11-11-2006, 03:23 PM

Any film can be improved by turning it into a kung-fu version. I'm not sure if there is an accepted equivalent for books. We need to uncover this secret. Any ideas?

11-09-2006, 10:19 AM	#1
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Well, it could all have been side-stepped if Elrond and Cirdan were given greater powers of persuasion and Isildur not allowed to be the vain, arrogant, pig-headed type he was. That would have allowed The Professor to write an extensive piece on weregild and revenge, much as he did on chivalry and heroism. After all, death in battle can hardly be called wrongful death, so weregild really didn't apply, despite Isildur's claims. This might have allowed The Professor also to write his own Silm instead of pouring all his sub-creative energies into LotR. Of course, that would have denied us the opportunity to berate or praise Tolkien Jr. for his compilation. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

11-09-2006, 11:17 AM	#2
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	What about a catapult? __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

11-09-2006, 01:34 PM	#3
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Yes Elrond simply could have pushed Isildur. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

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Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Any film can be improved by turning it into a kung-fu version. I'm not sure if there is an accepted equivalent for books. We need to uncover this secret. Any ideas? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

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11-11-2006, 12:10 AM	#4
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	LOTR... the kung fu version. May not make a good book, but would solve the Sauron problem in only one movie! Step 1: a whole lotta kung fu training scenes. Step 2: Gandalf and his posse (a different fellowship from the original, including Glorfindel and other bad @ss elves) take on the 9 riders, Sauron's personal bodyguard. Gandalf alone walks out of the ensuing mayhem alive, with the Ring. Step 3: unarmed kung fu battle between Gandalf and Sauron, in the Sammath Naur. For the coup de grâce, Gandalf sends the dark lord soaring into the fiery bowels of the mountain with a flying kick. The Ring survives... room for a sequel... heck no, a franchise! I'm surprised Peter Jackson didn't think of this.