The Tol-in-Gaurhoth Grimoire

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Possibly. But don't you kind of have to specify which lovers, I mean, there were a number...

Yes but it was such a hybrid game that I feel the line should be drawn somewhere. It was a game of lovers though they were the primary evil such as werewolves in a 'normal' game but it wouldn't be correct to classify them under 'the three'. To call them a split is more accurate yes, but I see no harm in sumarizing that they were simply lovers and it's irrelevant which type of lovers. But Kuru this is your desk and I don't want to scatter too many papers

[Kuruharan]

I think perhaps we should defer to Diamond. I'll see if I can't force an opinion out of her.

[Diamond18]

I don't consider the Werebear from my game to be the same as a Black Beorning, since in this game she functioned no differently than the Cat, Wolf, and Bird. The species of were was, in this case, purely for narrative purposes and had no bearing (har har) on actual gameplay.

Bottom line, I would just say the Lovers won 25. There were only two options for the game, a single pair of Lovers winning or the Innocent Elves winning. The Lovers did not have the exact plight that Nilp and Cailín's Lovers had, but they were in danger from other baddies, so they were more like the other versions of Lovers than they were a traditional wolf pack.

[Lhunardawen]

It begged to be done, but this is possibly my last update for an indefinitely long time.

Games joined (and mod): VI (Firefoot), VII (Fea), XII (the phantom), XIV (Alcarillo), XV (Anguirel), XVI (Formendacil), XVIII (Shelob and Abercrombie), XIX (Nilp), XXI (Elempi), XXII (Kath), XXIII (Cailín and Nogrod), XXV (Di and tgwbs) = 12

Ordo: 6
Werewolf: 2
Werebear: 1
Lover: 2 (one as wolf, one as bear)
Seer: 1
Ranger: 1
Hunter: 1

Lynched: 6/12
Autolynched: 1/12
Committed Suicide: 1/12
Killed at Night: 1/12
Survived: 3/12

Wins: 5
Losses: 6
Draw: 1

VI ~ Lhunatic ~ Hunter ~ almost killed Seer Oromin, suspected MythoSeer Firefoot, wasn't killed by wolf Holby, lived to the end ~ win
VII ~ Lhunatic ~ ordo ~ (curse you Eomer!) lynched ~ loss
XII ~ healer ~ ordo ~ autolynched for not posting ~ win
XIV ~ polite little shepherd girl ~ Ranger ~ lynched the day of all days that I couldn't post ~ loss
XV ~ girl-who-cried wolf ~ ordo ~ chatted with the human intruder before the game ended and lived to the end ~ win
XVI ~ Potion Pizza Maker ~ Seer ~ lynched Menel the Apprentice Ranger and died the next Night ~ draw
XVIII ~ Princess ~ royal invader girl ~ too haughty, lynched ~ loss
XIX ~ Dark Elf ~ Werewolf/Lover (fellow wolves Kath, Form, Samwise; Lover Farael) ~ dreamt of by Seeriffs first Night and caught by few ordos, lived a short doomed life, caused confusion, then lynched ~ loss
XXI ~ Eonwe's wife, Di and Nogrod's eldest daughter ~ ordo ~ committed suicide - too much schoolwork ~ loss
XXII ~ traveller with absolutely no sense of direction ~ Werewolf (fellow wolves tom bombariffic and Nogrod) ~ too sane and unsuspicious to be true, caught by Seer Lommy (alas!), lynched ~ loss
XXIII ~ seasick reluctant traveller ~ ordo ~ lynched for accusing Firefoot of being the Werewolf-Lover, haha ~ win
XXV ~ beautiful girl with sleeping sickness ~ Werebear/Lover (with Macalaure) ~ ignored by almost everyone until end ~ win

1. When I die, my side loses more often than not.
2. When I live to the end, my side ALWAYS wins.
3. Never lynch Lhuna when she's being careless, because that means she's innocent.
4. Something's always up when Lhuna's being so sane.
5. I'm not meant to be a normal Seer.
6. Lovers CAN win.

A Lovers' victory was more possible in Di's game than in Nilp's and Cailín's type of game, but who knew the Lovers could actually win! This is an excellent time to retire.

[Kuruharan]

Fair enough.

The Three have won 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 18, and 21=12.

The Ordos have won 4, 6, 8, 12, 15, 17, 19, 20, 22, 23, and 24=11.

The Black Beornings have not won.

The Lovers won 25=1.

A Tie occurred in 16=1.

[Thinlómien]

(and to prove I'm not the worst flood-poster.)

Total posts in ww threads: 422
Games played: 13
Average: 32 posts/game (32,46)

My post count varied from 4 to 95 per game, though most were 20-60.

(Warning: includes admin and post-game discussion if they have occured on the same thread.)

[littlemanpoet]

Games I was in: IV, VI, VII, VIII, XII, XIII, XVIII, WWJ5, XIX, XXII, XXVI (I've lost track and must edit)

Number of games: 13
Modded: 1
Ordinary Villager: 8
Werewolf Hunter: 0
Ranger: 1
Shirriff: 1
Cobbler: 0
Werewolf: 1
Seer: 1

As Seer:
# of known innocents given to ordos: 4 (including self)
# of werewolves dreamed: 1
# of dream choices killed same Night: 1
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On winning team: 7 of 12
On losing tem: 5 of 12
Survived to end: 2
Lynched: 1 (as a werewolf)
Killed by Wolves/Heroes: 9
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And now for a new wrinkle on things.....

Voting Record
Number of votes cast as innocent: 35
Number of accurate* votes cast as innocent: 15
(*accurate = voted for a were-creature)
Accuracy rate as innocent: 42.86%
Number of successful** votes cast as innocent: 7
Success rate as innocent: 20.0%

Number of votes cast as werewolf: 3
Number of successful** votes cast as werewolf:1 (once voted for self while werewolf as failed ploy)
(**successful = got the voted for player lynched)
Voting success rate as werewolf: 33.33%

(It could be argued that a successful vote by a werewolf is any that results in a lynch of a gifted and/or not werewolf; my statistics don't change in any case.)

Total number of successful votes cast, both as innocent and as werewolf: 8
Voting success rate both as innocent and as werewolf: 21.05%