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Durelin · 10-26-2006, 06:10 PM

I really would love to think that the Valar were playing a ten thousand year joke on the Elves. Just think of it! Tens of thousands of years of an inside joke!

All you'd have to say is, "Men," and Manwe would choke on his bagel.

But perhaps it was one of those 'test' sort of deals. The Elves were the 'firsts,' and likely the Valar had some understanding of the Children's pride. Could Men have always been the test of their pride? In the long history of Middle-earth during which Men and Elves inhabited it together, the Elves' pride always seemed to be particularly high when it came to any interaction with Men, at least from what I know.

I always like to think that supernatural beings of any sort have to test their creation at some time or another.

Or perhaps it just seemed so impractical for the Valar to bother to tell them. I suppose they would also know that the 'age of Men' bit was going to happen (sooner rather than later, at least to being such as them), and the Elves would all travel to the West where Men couldn't, anyway. So why bother?

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10-26-2006, 06:10 PM	#4
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	I really would love to think that the Valar were playing a ten thousand year joke on the Elves. Just think of it! Tens of thousands of years of an inside joke! All you'd have to say is, "Men," and Manwe would choke on his bagel. But perhaps it was one of those 'test' sort of deals. The Elves were the 'firsts,' and likely the Valar had some understanding of the Children's pride. Could Men have always been the test of their pride? In the long history of Middle-earth during which Men and Elves inhabited it together, the Elves' pride always seemed to be particularly high when it came to any interaction with Men, at least from what I know. I always like to think that supernatural beings of any sort have to test their creation at some time or another. Or perhaps it just seemed so impractical for the Valar to bother to tell them. I suppose they would also know that the 'age of Men' bit was going to happen (sooner rather than later, at least to being such as them), and the Elves would all travel to the West where Men couldn't, anyway. So why bother?