Alan Lee 'Illustrated Cottage' for Sale - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

narfforc · 10-11-2006, 06:02 AM

I've got lot's of spare black paint............................................. ..and some greyish colours I used in my cave.

Bêthberry · 10-11-2006, 06:58 AM

Those are definitely Froud ears! And shouldn't there be a copy of Christina Rossetti's "Goblin Market" framed somewhere for the eddyfication of prospective buyers?

Isn't there some kind of English Trust or Royal Trust or Heritage Trust that goes around protecting such sites? Sissinghurst's famous garden is a protected site and if a garden can be protected, cannot kitchen cottage murals?

Lalwendë · 10-11-2006, 08:51 AM

There's the National Trust and English Heritage, both funded by membership, but they specialise in owning property, rather than having any powers of protection. To protect the murals the cottage owner would have to seek 'listed building' status or be awarded it. And looking at that cottage it will almost certainly already be listed with Grade 1 status as it's 16th Century. However, to protect the murals it would have to be re-examined or re-evaluated - might take years to do. And sometimes protected status can reduce property value if they restrict future use (and they would stop you from having a new kitchen fitted!). The best hope of preserving them is the fact that the cottage has increased in value through having them.

Holbytlass · 10-11-2006, 01:13 PM

Lalwendë pointed out to the added price because of the murals so hopefully those who want to spend the extra money is because they want the paintings. Of course there are the weirdos out there who would spend the extra money to get their hands on something to ruin it for others.

It's lovely. I love the cabinetry in it also. I wouldn't even mind cleaning the dishes everyday, all day to be in a room like that.

The third picture showing the goblin holding the pears and pomegranet(I think that's what it is) reminds me of Bethberry's avatar but not as pretty.

Mithalwen · 10-11-2006, 01:26 PM

I really don't like these and wouldn't want them in my kitchen ..or anywhere... if the place were mine I'd cover 'em up before you could say "Farrow and Ball". They just give me the creeps. The one with the pomegranate looks like Rumpelstiltskin.... the stuff of nightmares...

Generally such extreme personalisation lowers the value of the property...unless you find someone who shares your taste.

My friends have recently bought cottage in Somerset and they previous owners were artists and there are pretty but very "tired" looking flowers all over the place which they feel a bit guilty about painting over.

Mush more to my taste is a green man in the local golden stone of the fireplace - it looks just like Envinyatar's old avatar

Valier · 10-11-2006, 01:27 PM

I thought the goblins looked alot the like the ones in the movie "The Labyrinth" But I like them none the less. The one with the banana is quite odd, but it made me giggle.

JennyHallu · 10-12-2006, 06:56 AM

I think whether or not murals would increase or decrease the value is largely a matter of quality. These are by well-known and skilled painters: the question concerning them is a matter of taste. They can be creepy or adorable, but there is never any doubt whether they look "tired".

Hilde Bracegirdle · 10-12-2006, 10:27 AM

Dearest Miss JennyHallu,
I would not eat that fruit if you,
got it at the market place,
from vendors of a goblin race.

Or even in a cottage rare,
where with painted fruit, those denisons dare,
entreat you to accept a taste,
from goblins or artists whatever the case.

They're bound to haunt you after all,
if they cannot effect your fall.
Those lovely visions placed in your mind,
will spoil all fruit of terrestrial kind.

Sorry, JennyHallu, but with your current location I felt inspired.

Bêthberry · 10-12-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Holbytlass

The third picture showing the goblin holding the pears and pomegranet(I think that's what it is) reminds me of Bethberry's avatar but not as pretty.

Hee hee ha ha. That pomegranate belongs to Persephone and her doom. And that banana reminds me of Tolkien's line in OFS, "But what of the banana skin?" Random acts of irrelevancy, I know.

Hilde, a delight as tasty a treat as any Goblin meat, and without the lingering after affects! Wonderful!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lal

The best hope of preserving them is the fact that the cottage has increased in value through having them.

Hmm. That sounds like precious little hope at all. Over here, there's no correlation between aesthetic or historical appreciation and wealth. And anyone who suggested such would be howled off stage in a deluge of social umbrage at the thought that money is a quarantor of sensibility. There's no guarantee that those with the money to pay such increases actually appreciate the art or are interested in preserving it. In fact, often it is the opposite. We had a gorgeous historical site, prime Art Deco design and architecture, with a concert hall with acoustics that are to die for, and complete with a Lalique fountain, and the owner wanted to tear it down and turn it all into business offices, but couldn't because it was designated an historical site. Money did save it eventually, I s'pose, as it has become a site of fancy galas and high ticket fundraisers and isn't open to the public. It's a little scary having "art" here so thoroughly in the hands of our 'robber barons.'

EDIT: I can see the second, third, and fourth picture, but I can't open the one on page one.

Lalwendë · 10-13-2006, 02:19 AM

Well, I found the estate agent page and more about the story. Lovely house, but thatched cottages often have hidden nasty secrets. However its quite expensive as houses seem to be round there, so someone might want to keep the art, seeing as they'll have paid for it!

Hilde Bracegirdle · 10-13-2006, 04:42 AM

*Sigh* The story is not showing up, but the pictures are wonderful to see. I particularly like the garden and the attic room. And it is amazing to find how 'updated' the downstairs looks, but maybe that is just from the furnishings.

I don't understand the description of it having a slate and thatch roof, though. Do you suppose that there is a full slate roof under there? If so, I would wonder if the thatch was more of an external insulation.

10-11-2006, 06:02 AM	#1
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	When I'm rich and famous I've got lot's of spare black paint............................................. ..and some greyish colours I used in my cave. __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

10-11-2006, 06:58 AM	#2
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Those are definitely Froud ears! And shouldn't there be a copy of Christina Rossetti's "Goblin Market" framed somewhere for the eddyfication of prospective buyers? Isn't there some kind of English Trust or Royal Trust or Heritage Trust that goes around protecting such sites? Sissinghurst's famous garden is a protected site and if a garden can be protected, cannot kitchen cottage murals? __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

10-11-2006, 08:51 AM	#3
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	There's the National Trust and English Heritage, both funded by membership, but they specialise in owning property, rather than having any powers of protection. To protect the murals the cottage owner would have to seek 'listed building' status or be awarded it. And looking at that cottage it will almost certainly already be listed with Grade 1 status as it's 16th Century. However, to protect the murals it would have to be re-examined or re-evaluated - might take years to do. And sometimes protected status can reduce property value if they restrict future use (and they would stop you from having a new kitchen fitted!). The best hope of preserving them is the fact that the cottage has increased in value through having them. __________________ Gordon's alive!

10-11-2006, 01:13 PM	#4
Holbytlass Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Party Tree Posts: 1,042	Lalwendë pointed out to the added price because of the murals so hopefully those who want to spend the extra money is because they want the paintings. Of course there are the weirdos out there who would spend the extra money to get their hands on something to ruin it for others. It's lovely. I love the cabinetry in it also. I wouldn't even mind cleaning the dishes everyday, all day to be in a room like that. The third picture showing the goblin holding the pears and pomegranet(I think that's what it is) reminds me of Bethberry's avatar but not as pretty. __________________ Holby is an actual flesh-and-blood person, right? Not, say a sock-puppet of Nilp’s, by any chance? ~Nerwen, WWCIII

10-11-2006, 01:26 PM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Ah the lick your sister poem.... I really don't like these and wouldn't want them in my kitchen ..or anywhere... if the place were mine I'd cover 'em up before you could say "Farrow and Ball". They just give me the creeps. The one with the pomegranate looks like Rumpelstiltskin.... the stuff of nightmares... Generally such extreme personalisation lowers the value of the property...unless you find someone who shares your taste. My friends have recently bought cottage in Somerset and they previous owners were artists and there are pretty but very "tired" looking flowers all over the place which they feel a bit guilty about painting over. Mush more to my taste is a green man in the local golden stone of the fireplace - it looks just like Envinyatar's old avatar __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-11-2006, 01:27 PM	#6
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	I thought the goblins looked alot the like the ones in the movie "The Labyrinth" But I like them none the less. The one with the banana is quite odd, but it made me giggle. __________________ grand return?........

10-12-2006, 06:56 AM	#7
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	I think whether or not murals would increase or decrease the value is largely a matter of quality. These are by well-known and skilled painters: the question concerning them is a matter of taste. They can be creepy or adorable, but there is never any doubt whether they look "tired". __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

10-12-2006, 10:27 AM	#8
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Dearest Miss JennyHallu, I would not eat that fruit if you, got it at the market place, from vendors of a goblin race. Or even in a cottage rare, where with painted fruit, those denisons dare, entreat you to accept a taste, from goblins or artists whatever the case. They're bound to haunt you after all, if they cannot effect your fall. Those lovely visions placed in your mind, will spoil all fruit of terrestrial kind. Sorry, JennyHallu, but with your current location I felt inspired. Last edited by Hilde Bracegirdle; 10-13-2006 at 04:43 AM.

10-13-2006, 02:19 AM	#10
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	Well, I found the estate agent page and more about the story. Lovely house, but thatched cottages often have hidden nasty secrets. However its quite expensive as houses seem to be round there, so someone might want to keep the art, seeing as they'll have paid for it! __________________ Gordon's alive!

10-13-2006, 04:42 AM	#11
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Sigh The story is not showing up, but the pictures are wonderful to see. I particularly like the garden and the attic room. And it is amazing to find how 'updated' the downstairs looks, but maybe that is just from the furnishings. I don't understand the description of it having a slate and thatch roof, though. Do you suppose that there is a full slate roof under there? If so, I would wonder if the thatch was more of an external insulation.

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