The Fellowship of the Fourth Age (Part 1): A New Beginning Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 10-09-2006, 04:15 PM

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At any rate, I was imagining that time was passing rather slowly in the slave camp, and I was thinking that Khamir wouldn't have a chance to leave before the Fellowship arrived.

They came in quite suddenly in the end. I was also thinking the things would go as slow as they had gone before, but that surely was a surprise when the fellowship in a flash was there... That's the reason why I felt I needed to save something from the point of view of the ex-slaves and tried to make their reactions believable...

Durelin: I think you must do some soul-searching with Khamir's relation to Beloan and about Khamir as a character in the first place. I think Beloan is someone who still goes for the common good more than with his friends personal oddities - how dear that friend might be to him (and I think he sure is a dear friend of his). I see no problem in Beloan watching Khamir's movements and taking part of the planning of the overall defences...

And we surely need someone to gather the ex-slaves together, someone in accordance with everyone but still having something like leadership in him (Hadith will not do). I can't think of anyone else than Beloan at this point as Khamir has made a different decision...

I hope you can see this scenario as a reasonable one. If it sounds bad to you, let us discuss it further...

Durelin · 10-09-2006, 04:38 PM

Your post is quite fine the way it is...I was not arguing with anything you said. I was simply trying to clarify that Khamir had not really gone anywhere (yet), which really is of little importance. He did manage to rather disappear, and I imagine he was well outside the camp in the direction the Fellowship came from, which would mean he would see them just a little bit before everyone else. And that, I think, works nicely.

Tevildo · 10-09-2006, 04:43 PM

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Hopefully I can sneak a reaction from Adnan in, as well as from Khamir, probably all internal. Though I'm sure Khamir will be looking for a place to butt in soon... But keep moving on as you'd like - I can always ask to have posts placed somewhere, if no one minds that.

Durelin,

Realistically, I am not going to have my post finished till tomorrow mid-day. Would you like me to erase my save so that you casn sneak one in (a post or save) ahead of mine? That would be no problem.

Durelin · 10-09-2006, 05:14 PM

Thank you, Tevildo. I will be posting a post for Khamir shortly, but I doubt it will have any effect on your planned post for Dorran, so it is up to you if you wish to delete/move your save once again. (Sorry for the trouble - it's my fault that I am a little behind.)

Brinniel · 10-09-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Durelin

Hopefully my schoolwork will clear up a little bit by the end of the month, once this mad rush of papers and the like is over...hopefully.

I know where you're coming from, Durelin. School is always so crazy- I always seem to have papers due left and right. I don't know how I manage to go on the BD so much. I suppose it's because 1) As a college student, I live in tight quarters and my computers almost always within sight (sitting right next to my bed) 2) I tend to sleep in short intervals rather than a decent night's sleep 3) I use the BD as an excuse to procrastinate (which I'm doing right now)

Hmmm, I like that post, Durelin. I find Khamir's sudden change quite fascinating (and I'm sure Shae will as well). I'm also interested in what Dorran has to say. Hopefully I'll find time to write a post for Shae once Tevildo fills in the save.

Durelin · 10-09-2006, 07:01 PM

Thanks for the sympathy, Brinniel! I'm hoping next year, when I go off to college, though I am sure I will have tons of work, I'll be better at managing my time...and having easy access to a computer will make things easier, for certain (and might have an effect on my grades, hehe). Really, I both look forward to college and dread it at the same time.

As for Khamir's sudden change, I must admit he has become almost an awkward character for me. He hasn't turned out the way I meant him to at all, and I think that's do to me underestimating the amount of reacting he's had to do with all the rather sudden changes around him... Though really I think it's more the fact that I've been left a little in the dust trying to gague so many reactions! I wish I could have planned this character out better (though I can't say how specifically I should have done that), but still, it's been fun not knowing, and seeing where he ends up. I hope it hasn't been just exasperating and/or annoying for everyone else.

Really, Khamir's changing has been gradual, in a way, though his stubbornness keeps him from actually making any (long-lasting) changes. He's realized in bits and pieces that he needs to change things, but actually making those changes is another question altogether. The combination of his worry for Shae followed by his relief in finding her safe, and his surprise and shock at finding that the Fellowship really did come to help them, has brought him to a certain awakening.

Something like that.

Brinniel · 10-09-2006, 09:35 PM

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I'm hoping next year, when I go off to college, though I am sure I will have tons of work, I'll be better at managing my time...and having easy access to a computer will make things easier, for certain (and might have an effect on my grades, hehe). Really, I both look forward to college and dread it at the same time

Haha, I hope you will do a better job managing time than I do. The socializing never ends, so it's hard to sit down and do homework, or even more, go to bed. Really, having my own personal computer for the first time is a truly wonderful thing.

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He hasn't turned out the way I meant him to at all, and I think that's do to me underestimating the amount of reacting he's had to do with all the rather sudden changes around him... Though really I think it's more the fact that I've been left a little in the dust trying to gague so many reactions! I wish I could have planned this character out better (though I can't say how specifically I should have done that), but still, it's been fun not knowing, and seeing where he ends up. I hope it hasn't been just exasperating and/or annoying for everyone else.

Sometimes I think that is the best part about RPGing. You never know how your characters will grow or where they'll end up. Seriously, when I first created Shae, I had no clue what role she would take. Don't worry, Khamir's changes work perfectly well, and they're definitely not annoying. In fact, if it weren't for Khamir and his attitude, Shae would still be huddled in the corner of the camp. And though I can't speak for Nogrod, I'm sure Hadith probably wouldn't be speaking up like he is. It's all a matter of cause and effect....

Nogrod · 10-10-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Durelin

Your post is quite fine the way it is...I was not arguing with anything you said.

And may I add that I was not arguing with anything you said either.

I looked my last post here just now and saw that I hadn't managed to really say what I meant correctly. I was just wishing to point out the reasons why Beloan would be needed with the others and tried to suggest that if you had other plans we might discuss them. All that "soul-searching" -stuff was primarily meant to be an encouragement to really go for your character and take the chance given to twist him to new dimensions if you wished (as I have thought you have wished to make him a dramatic character in the first place).

Sorry if my post here in the discussion thread confused you. It was not my intention.

Btw. I liked your last post with Khamir and can't see his "change" as anything sudden or violent. It looks most believable indeed...

Tevildo · 10-10-2006, 01:50 PM

My post is up. If I've gotten anything wrong about your characters, let me know. Though please don't forget that this is Dorran's perception.

Child of the 7th Age · 10-10-2006, 02:18 PM

Perhaps one or more of the rebels could lead the fellowship into their camp? Of course, side conversations and exchanges can still continue....

I am also going to put up a save for a generic post on how Imak and the slavers spend their morning....

Brinniel · 10-10-2006, 02:44 PM

I put up yet another save. It shouldn't be a terribly long post- just a reaction to everything that has happened since Shae's conversation with Khamir.

I can't exactly say when I'll have the save filled by, but I'll do it as soon as I have the chance.

Durelin · 10-10-2006, 04:27 PM

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And may I add that I was not arguing with anything you said either.

I looked my last post here just now and saw that I hadn't managed to really say what I meant correctly. I was just wishing to point out the reasons why Beloan would be needed with the others and tried to suggest that if you had other plans we might discuss them. All that "soul-searching" -stuff was primarily meant to be an encouragement to really go for your character and take the chance given to twist him to new dimensions if you wished (as I have thought you have wished to make him a dramatic character in the first place).

Sorry, I guess I just read your post from a different angle. I do that a lot! Thank you, and I do like where Beloan is going, as a sort shared character (open to be shared by all, but used the most by you and I the most, for certain), as he's become. He was an interesting addition, and I thank you for coming up with him!

And thank you, Brinniel - your reassurance about Khamir really helps!

EDIT: I posted, and had Beloan bring the Fellowship into camp. I left things very vague as to who would be part of the planning for the battle, so everyone can write in what they see fit for that. I'm thinking Beloan with definitely be a part of it, Khamir might join Beloan but keep from really joining the group, and Vror will want to be a part of it (and Adnan will tend the fire and help with little things like that so he can stay within ear's shot of the proceedings).

Please let me know if there are any problems with my post, everyone.

10-10-2006, 01:50 PM	#9
Tevildo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Curled up on Melko's lap Posts: 425	My post is up. If I've gotten anything wrong about your characters, let me know. Though please don't forget that this is Dorran's perception. __________________ Now Tevildo was a mighty cat--the mightiest of all--and possessed of an evil spirit,...and he was in Melko's constant following; and that cat had all cats subject to him, and he and his subjects were the chasers and getters of meat for Melko's table.

10-10-2006, 02:18 PM	#10
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Perhaps one or more of the rebels could lead the fellowship into their camp? Of course, side conversations and exchanges can still continue.... I am also going to put up a save for a generic post on how Imak and the slavers spend their morning.... __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

10-10-2006, 02:44 PM	#11
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	I put up yet another save. It shouldn't be a terribly long post- just a reaction to everything that has happened since Shae's conversation with Khamir. I can't exactly say when I'll have the save filled by, but I'll do it as soon as I have the chance. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

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10-09-2006, 04:38 PM	#2
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Your post is quite fine the way it is...I was not arguing with anything you said. I was simply trying to clarify that Khamir had not really gone anywhere (yet), which really is of little importance. He did manage to rather disappear, and I imagine he was well outside the camp in the direction the Fellowship came from, which would mean he would see them just a little bit before everyone else. And that, I think, works nicely.

10-09-2006, 05:14 PM	#4
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Thank you, Tevildo. I will be posting a post for Khamir shortly, but I doubt it will have any effect on your planned post for Dorran, so it is up to you if you wish to delete/move your save once again. (Sorry for the trouble - it's my fault that I am a little behind.)

10-09-2006, 07:01 PM	#6
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Thanks for the sympathy, Brinniel! I'm hoping next year, when I go off to college, though I am sure I will have tons of work, I'll be better at managing my time...and having easy access to a computer will make things easier, for certain (and might have an effect on my grades, hehe). Really, I both look forward to college and dread it at the same time. As for Khamir's sudden change, I must admit he has become almost an awkward character for me. He hasn't turned out the way I meant him to at all, and I think that's do to me underestimating the amount of reacting he's had to do with all the rather sudden changes around him... Though really I think it's more the fact that I've been left a little in the dust trying to gague so many reactions! I wish I could have planned this character out better (though I can't say how specifically I should have done that), but still, it's been fun not knowing, and seeing where he ends up. I hope it hasn't been just exasperating and/or annoying for everyone else. Really, Khamir's changing has been gradual, in a way, though his stubbornness keeps him from actually making any (long-lasting) changes. He's realized in bits and pieces that he needs to change things, but actually making those changes is another question altogether. The combination of his worry for Shae followed by his relief in finding her safe, and his surprise and shock at finding that the Fellowship really did come to help them, has brought him to a certain awakening. Something like that.