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Old 09-21-2006, 06:28 AM   #1
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AGH!!!! I just knew Noggie was evil. Especially that last day when everything he said sounded so reasonable and made no sense.

So, wolvsies, why'd I get killed so early?
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:51 AM   #2
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Well, it was a good game, though I missed most of it. Nogrod almost made it there...

Anyhow, I was wondering why I was killed the first Day and thought it was due to my post about Lommy and Naria. It turns out now that I was actually the casualty of a Seer's dream, and a very wise choice of a Seer's dream as well. (I would have dreamed about you first as well, Boromir.)

I'd hoped that my comment about Gil-Galad's occupation and Glirdan's death would have been interpreted as the rather obvious joke it was, though...

Anyway, is it just me or have I always been suspicious of Boromir88 when we've played together?
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:54 AM   #3
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So, wolvsies, why'd I get killed so early?
Sounds like a good place to start today. After Menel was eliminated *sniffsniff* Nogrod and I... well... at least I was a bit frazzled. Basically instead of getting rid of Boromir (Which we should have!) we decided to pick a random person from the list (You, Jenny) in hopes that people would be thrown off by it. We also considered Lommy, which probably would have been much easier on Noggie IRL, but I completely forgot they knew one another.

During that second Day, Noggie tried to keep Mac and Boromir in close assosication with him, which most everyone picked up on nicely. Mwahahaha!

I had plans to frame Sleepy and Naria, but that didn't work out so well. Instead people were making a case against Diamond and Kath, and because I wanted it to look natural... I voted Kath. I must say that Nogrod's targets (Gil and Diamond) were much more effectively eliminated.

The third night Nogrod sounded like he was pretty sure he was going to die... Which I didn't understand at all.

As he had so gently stated the Day before, Boromir was going to be after me the next day, so naturally I'm panicing because all of my hope for a wolfish victory meant Nogrod staying alive... And keeping Nogrod alive meant we couldn't get rid of Boromir! Besides... now if we had gone and picked Boromir I would have looked twice as guilty as before.

Anyway, He was so stanchly protecting Noggie that it seemed foolish to remove him from our deceptive shield. You can't imagine how frustrating that was for me, so I gritted my teeth and suggested that we needed to get rid of Valier before she could put up anything incriminating against us. Hence her murder.

I knew the end was near for me because of you, Boromir *shakes fist*
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I feel as if there is a large chance that I will not survive tomorrow. I think it's important that we consider some post mortem plans if either one of us snuffs it during the Day.

Don't support me. I'd rather you vote for me than do what I did to Menel.
If we weren't suppose to be connected, what better way to remove a wolf from the 'pack' than to have it turn against it's own kind? I was sure it would promise us a victory and it worked until the very very end. Grr! So close, too!

I'd like to hear Nogrod's reasons for the other deaths, and why no one considered why the oh-so-innocent Nogrod lasted so long during the nights?
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:25 PM   #4
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1420!

Wow! I think this would have to be one of the funnest games I have been in and one of the most frustrating games. I really enjoyed myself this time! A special thanks to Glirdy and his moddess. Wonderful job, both of you. I really liked the rp format...I was a little apprehensive about it at first, but it worked out beautifully.

I knew that I had to have been on the right track(or somewhat) with Boro's dreams. After I went back and took another look at what he said...the pieces just fit together a little too good for it not to be right. After I died you guys should have heard me...I wanted to reach through the screen, on several occasions, and strangle some of you. I am just glad that Lommy used her better judgement for her last vote...wah hooo!!

Nogrod, you slippery bugger! You did a really good job for being a lone wolf. I still can't believe that so many people believed your bunk.

Volo, only one word comes to mind...Superb!

Boro, awesome seering. The only nit-pick that I would have is your 'innocent' list. Everyone is going to believe the seer's list no matter what happens and therefore I had a really hard time convincing others to the contrary. You dreamt of Mac, but why did you have Volo and Nog on your list?

Everyone else...congrats!! I loved playing with all of you

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Why indeed! I mean come on...he's a really good player(therefore a threat to the wolves) and he lasts night after night and then it comes down to one wolf to find and Nog still stays alive night after night. I really did think that someone would have picked up on that.
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Old 09-21-2006, 01:03 PM   #5
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Thanks Glirdan! You sure made me look heroic in the end-post :P Well, even if this did cost morning alertness, I enjoyed myself! This sure was a bunch of clever people!

Well, from my part this game was luck... Just protected the people in a succesful order and posted my own senseless opinions. I really feel that I haven't learned much and am still a total newbie... If not for Nogrod's teacher-role, I'd be dead and so would be Kath and Lommy. He sure left many clues now that I read some posts again, the reason I then desided to vote him (at midnight) was post #356 , maybe of fear or knowledge that this was the last chance to get rid of wolf-Nogrod...

Thanks to all of you! Especially to you, who really put your time in the game. I'll sure continue participating in WW!

But then this last question that I have wondered for some time! Did Nogrod ask Glirdan to make "the mistake"?
EDIT: it seems not...

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Old 09-21-2006, 12:43 PM   #6
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Absolutely Fabulous People!

This was a great comeback for the WW-games! A thriller, I might say... at least for me.

Back-stabbing my mates in the beginning of the game surely wasn't anything like my plan.

Sadly Menel went on the first Day the way he did. If I hadn't attacked him, all those who have played with me before would have gotten really suspicious of me not jumping hard on things I always go after in-game. And not the least when he would have been lynched and recognised as a wolf whom I didn't attack in my normal way...

Valesse I was waiting to save herself. Had she voted for Gil, she would have made it - and could have blamed the vote for self-preservation. I waited with my vote-message ready-written for her to post and reacted as soon as I saw she had done so - it was important she voted first to make Gil the first with three votes. I confess howling out aloud in front of my screen as I realised that she hadn't voted Gil.

So I realised being the small and lonely wolf among the frightening eight villagers, seer and ranger included... and decided to make a fight for it. Really, then I considered my chances quite minuscule indeed.

But it was sooo much fun!

Lommy I will have to re-christen to Lommy the Noggie's-Bane. This was the second time she actually triggered or arranged my death as a wolf and once she was one of the voters. Beautiful gaming Lommy! You had your eyes open!

Great gifted-work Boro and Volo! I remember Boro's earlier Seer-work too. You are just the the Absolute Seer! And Volo, you really started to annoy me when I realised that you had denied me the second time... You really made an impressive entry to the WW! Although in the end I think it was not so bad to my "career" in the game that there were those two denials...

And really, Macalaure. I'm actually apologising to you my last words to you in the game. I just couldn't resist the temptation to add some emotional scenes to our RPG-element (and to make myself look a bit more innocent, perhaps? )...

And how happy I was when I realised that the others didn't listen to you Naria! You had astonishingly clear eyes! A bow to your direction.

Kath: very skillful indeed! You managed to play so reasonably that it was really hard to try to construct a real case against you in the end and so I had to go on with the "I trust you" -manner. That was one nail in my coffin.

And kudos to all those dying early too! You played beautifully as long as it lasted.

And even though I kind of disliked the "he-factor" -slippage which in the end nailed me (I'm not saying I would have been a sure winner without it, but my chances would have been lot better), a big hand to Glirdy! You modded well, and the whole RPG-idea was just outstanding! I really enjoyed this game!

PS. My last kill choices. Boro and Mac because they were trusted by almost all and because they trusted myself. Why would a wolf do that? Well, that's just why... (And surely I was quite sure Boro was the Seer.)

Lovely!
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:59 PM   #7
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It did help that I had dreamed of you. And even though if I knew you were joking, I just used a passed experience with Wolf Formendacil as my reason to jump on you so that it didn't look too seerish and I could lay low for a while.

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I was thinking the same thing and was regretting doing it. I was pleading people to listen to you and Kath. After getting Valesse (sorry ), I was 99% sure I was the one targeted and then protected that night, so I pretty much knew I was dead meat the next day. I told myself that if the Ranger came out and said who he protected (glad you didn't Volo that was a great move), I would then come out and declare my seerness and reveal everything. However, this did not happen so I tried to stress the fact that I knew Mac was innocent, and as far as Nogrod and Volo, those were the two I felt were the most innocent, and was just going off a 'feeling' of them. In which one of those was wrong. Then you and Kath picked up on that very well, just it was hard getting people to believe you, especially with Nogrod around twisting things.

Nogrod, plain and simply I'm still shocked you were a wolf. Like I said in the game you'd be the greatest back-stabbing, yet brilliant wolf if you pulled off a win.
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Old 09-21-2006, 02:21 PM   #8
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Then you and Kath picked up on that very well, just it was hard getting people to believe you, especially with Nogrod around twisting things.
That's what we lycantrophes are here to do to survive...

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Well, in the end I didn't... but who cares? It was so much fun that the win would have been just one more spice to the stew - a nice one to be sure - but anyway. As I said, I really enjoyed playing again and am more than happy with the game as it went!

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But then this last question that I have wondered for some time! Did Nogrod ask Glirdan to make "the mistake"?
EDIT: it seems not...
Correct! I may be a "sporty player" who likes to take risks and try daring tactics (as voting for Sleepy was, as I wanted to finish the game the "beautiful way", however it would turn out), but I'm not wishing to play it at a "Deity-level"... which that request would have made it!
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:17 AM   #9
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I'd like to hear Nogrod's reasons for the other deaths, and why no one considered why the oh-so-innocent Nogrod lasted so long during the nights?
Hey, I got to it on the last day!

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After I died you guys should have heard me...I wanted to reach through the screen, on several occasions, and strangle some of you.
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Lommy I will have to re-christen to Lommy the Noggie's-Bane. This was the second time she actually triggered or arranged my death as a wolf and once she was one of the voters. Beautiful gaming Lommy! You had your eyes open!
I don't even want to see the game where I'm a wolf and you're innocent though...

Besides, this game earned a new title for Menel. He might from now on call himself a Fenris Wolf. Almost all of us are proud to have the title (see signatures). Though, there's one traitor, and he would even have the honorary title Fenris Penguin...
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Old 09-22-2006, 06:04 AM   #10
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You wouldn't be referring to me now would you?

That wasn't an accurate portrayal, I just need to learn to shut my mouth sometimes. (Or I guess my fingers?)
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You wouldn't be referring to me now would you?

That wasn't an accurate portrayal, I just need to learn to shut my mouth sometimes. (Or I guess my fingers?)
You could be proud of your mistakes... (like me)
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