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"Art reflects [the] dynamic in its insistence on its own truth, which has its ground in social reality and is yet its "other". Art breaks open a dimension inaccesible to other experience, the dimension in which human beings, nature, and things no longer stand under the law of the established reality principle. Subjects and objects encounter the appearance of that autonomy which is denied them in their society. The encounter with the truth of art happens in the estranging language and images which make it perceptible, visible, and audible that which is no longer, or not yet, perceived, said, and heard in everyday life."
~Herbert Marcuse: The Aesthetic Dimension, 1977 ~ Sometimes even the theorists seem to get it right? ![]()
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Dared to read the thread through at last...
Why should fantasy be either dream or an escape? Can't it be both? Can we really separate a dream and an escape? In my opinion they are the same to some extent. What else is a dream than an escape? Don't we escape the present to dreams? Yet, escape might be more than a dream, it can be something more concretical (sp?). Of course there are many extents to both "dream" and "escape", but as long as they are interwoven and entwined, they are (almost) the same thing and isn't that what is fantasy? Or faerie? (And if this made sense, I'm surprised... ![]()
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Dreams are understood as the mind processing one's day/life while asleep. Nothing planned about that. By contrast, fantasies are constructed by the waking human mind. There are similarities, surely, but there is artifice in the one and happenstance in the other. Make sense?
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![]() So, is a lucid dream a fantasy or a dream then?
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