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Old 06-03-2006, 10:12 AM   #1
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Fin - That throwaway vote. Explain it.

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Cough up some reasons, monkey-man.
Does you petulance have no bounds cartoon boy?
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Old 06-03-2006, 10:15 AM   #2
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Regarding Mith, I feel I know her very well and can read her and know how she would react as a wolf. She is not. Sadly I am not the seer but the wolves can kill me to find out.
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Old 06-03-2006, 10:25 AM   #3
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morm is beginning to feel rather more innocent to me. Of course if TGWBS is a wolf, this could be a clever sacrifice that morm can ride 'til the end. But for now, I'm starting to feel more inclined to trust him.
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Old 06-03-2006, 10:26 AM   #4
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And now I feel more inclined to trust TGWBS...

See, this is why you shouldn't put all your faith in me
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Old 06-03-2006, 10:35 AM   #5
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So yes, I have faith in your wolfspotting abilities. I think the best course of action is for Caran to make a shortlist of three or four people and everybody to vote for one of them. This preserves some autonomy whilst narrowing the autonomy of the wolves.
Hmm... well when a certain wizard did that in another village, it was because he actually had some knowledge of other innocents, and wanted to keep the village from lynching them. I know nothing. I shan't make a shortlist that everybody must vote from.

What I will do is provide you with a list of suspects from an objective opinion. Vote as you wish, ignoring my list if you so choose. I don't think that merely voting for someone not on my list should be taken as a wolvish-act; rather, I think that, as usual, reasoning and previous suspicions should be taken into account. Take this as objective advice, not as a List of Doom (I believe Gurthang has a copyright on that term )

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Old 06-03-2006, 10:43 AM   #6
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I'm happy to trust Caran because 3/4 of her suspects seem suspicious to me. That seems accurate enough for me. Her objective outlook should be one we all take complete advantage of while she's here. Even if it did serve as a hiding place for wolves, it would only be for the one day she's here.

So yes, I have faith in your wolfspotting abilities. I think the best course of action is for Caran to make a shortlist of three or four people and everybody to vote for one of them. This preserves some autonomy whilst narrowing the autonomy of the wolves.
I think this is a bad idea. Caran has already posted lists of who she finds suspicious and why. How are we to be assured that this is not a ploy from the wolves to keep themselves out of trouble for another day? I do feel that Caran is intelligent, but I am looking for completely different qualities in people than she is. I have voiced my belief of the moderate wolf being a likely one. Two of the people in her bottom four are there because Caran finds then ‘unreadable.’ I think that the line between personality and the actions of a bold wolf is not well defined here. The actions they have been called suspicious for so far seem to be mostly related to their personalities and posting styles. I want to wait for a stronger justification than the fact that their personalities may hide a bold wolf. Her arguments against Tom were flawed, and I find him likely innocent. As far as Morm goes, I am a bit suspicious, but not enough at this point to warrant a vote.

We should listen to Caran, but I don't think that blind following is wise.

X- posted with Caran, her suggestion idea seems much more reasonable than TGWBS's plan
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Old 06-03-2006, 10:55 AM   #7
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I have voiced my belief of the moderate wolf being a likely one.
Isn't that more of a personality-based criterion than my "unreadable"-based suspicions? I think that a wolf want to be unreadable. That's why I find unreadable people suspicious. I've never played with Durelin before, so I don't know if this is her typical behavior. Feanor I know looks suspicious even when she isn't guilty, but I think in this game particularly, her behavior has been cryptic at best. As for Tom, I agreed with your point and removed him from my suspicion list for now.
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