Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXII: Hic Monstrae Trucidant - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mithalwen · 06-01-2006, 03:03 PM

OK will take a flyer since if you are right I seem to be a designated potential victim and it will mix things up a bit.

This strategy makes you so vulnerable if it backfires that I will chance trusting you:

--Caranlondien

++ Saucepan Man

Well he did say he wanted to be suspected

littlemanpoet · 06-01-2006, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

This strategy makes you so vulnerable if it backfires that I will chance trusting you

I hope for both our sakes your trust is not in vain.

the guy who be short · 06-01-2006, 03:20 PM

This is interesting. The three leaders are now morm, SpM and Caran.I'd be glad to kill off SpM just because he's infathomable. But I don't know how I feel towards Caran. She admits she is easily manipulated - but would the wolves risk killing Form if she were amongst them? I doubt it.

So I shall wait and see. If I have time, I will analyse Caran as I originally meant to. If not, my vote will stay with morm or change to SpM.

Findëasëa · 06-01-2006, 03:25 PM

Wow, two bandwagons in a row. I feel that the wolves are behind the creation of at least one of them. I am sticking with my belief that Caran is innocent. I will vote for either SPM or Mith in a bit, I just got back and I want to review a bit more first.

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-01-2006, 03:31 PM

All because I didn't buy your werewolf weariness, eh, Elempi? Touchy, touchy!

Still, thanks for garnering me a few votes. Just as long as they don't stack up much more.

Durelin, if I seem to lack direction, it is because I am probing and prodding. I am not entirely convinced that Fea is as pure as she makes out. But I didn't like the way that Caran jumped on my vote for her. That, added to the other things about Caran that have been aired today, makes her look very Wolfish in my eyes.

I am rather alarmed over Mith's uncharacteristic flip-floppiness, but that is a matter that I shall have to look into tomorrow if I am still here.

I am leaving now and won't be back before the deadline, so if any Wolves who have not yet voted for me want to take the opportunity to try to get me lynched, please feel free to do so. It won't do you any favours though.

Edit: Cross-posted with Caran, among others. What a surprise! She has changed her vote yet again. How did I guess she might do that ...?

Caranlondien · 06-01-2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpM

I am not entirely convinced that Fea is as pure as she makes out. But I didn't like the way that Caran jumped on my vote for her.

Honestly, I wrote that analysis of Fea before you voted for her. I admit I tend to be rather swayed by people's arguments, but my suspicion of Fea was my own.

Findëasëa · 06-01-2006, 03:40 PM

A lot of people seem to be suspicious to me today, but I cant seem to find a particular person who sticks out the most to me. Unfortunately, I have to place my vote now. I mentioned earlier that the people who are most suspicious to me at this point are those who have offered more commentary than theorizing. For this reason I feel quite suspicious of a few people, of these I will vote for Mith, after looking over her actions for the past two days she seems highly suspicious. She does say that she is very busy in the RL, which may explain some of her behavior that I find suspicious. I was not able to finish my analysis of her, but what I have found seems incriminating enough to warrant a vote in my opinion. Most of her comments on the first day were either very abstract or carefully worded so as to not incriminate. Her recent comment, which assures the village that she could not possibly be a wolf, as she would have killed SPM seemed like a very bizarre defense. This behavior seems very wolf like to me.
++Mith

the guy who be short · 06-01-2006, 03:43 PM

Fin... that's pathetic. I'm bringing up that throwaway vote tomorrow.

I'm inclined to vote SpM, but I don't know what happens if I create a tie. Let me check... Tum te tum.

Caranlondien · 06-01-2006, 03:44 PM

Remind me never to purposefully try to garner some suspicion on Day One. Ever again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cailín

I know it is unethical to vote for someone you are not actually suspicious of, but I think the village needs to know her identity. I don't think either Morm or Fea is particularly guilty either.

I agree - the village needs to know my identity. I am your horribly failing Hunter.

I know no more than any of you ordinary villagers, so I’d be quite glad for some input on what to do now that I’ve been forced into the open.

the guy who be short · 06-01-2006, 03:46 PM

--MORM

++SpM

Hopefully you can be saved. Anyway, you will be allowed to live tonight as the Ranger will protect you, so really, you're safe until tomorrow. Be helpful until then - your opinion will be the only objective one that we can all trust.

Unless you're bluffing, but I don't want to think about that.

mormegil · 06-01-2006, 03:46 PM

Well the conference is over and I've only done a minimal perusal of posts and I see differing opinions on my WW Weariness. Let's just say that RL issues that cropped up along with a rather long and stressful last game have caused this. I hope somebody with great leech craft can heal me soon and I predict by tomorrow I may be in normal form but we shall see. I cannot provide any detail analysis of the day because I haven't read much of anything. I will do better.

Nogrod · 06-01-2006, 03:43 PM

Twenty minutes, or so...

Caran may be jumping a bit, and as she says:

Quote:

I admit I tend to be rather swayed by people's arguments

,but she feels like innocent. My "theory" against her was based on the overall wolf-jumpiness anyhow, as I said earlier.

Spm I just couldn't vote yet. He was on the good cause at least on Day1 so strongly, that dfor a wolf-bluff that would have been quite heavy even for him... (trying to twist the Changeling to side with the village = village win - well not surely, but highly enhanced chances)

I feel sympathy for Morm if this all is RL-bussiness, but then again, he hasn't even tried to be helpful on his short posts (and still he reads the thread!). He's the one I could go now...

Nogrod · 06-01-2006, 03:45 PM

As Find ran away from accountability, I will try to lynch the one I think is the least innocent or helpful.

++ Morm

EDIT: X-posted with Caran

Caranlondien · 06-01-2006, 03:51 PM

LMP => Caran (Caran-1)
morm => Caran (Caran-2)
LMP ≠> Caran => Spawn (Caran-1, Spawn-1)
Lhuna => Durelin (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1)
Lommy => morm (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, morm-1)
SPM => Feanor (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-1)
Tom => morm (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-2)
Caran => Feanor (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-2, morm-2)
tgwbs => Morm (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-2, morm-3)
Fea => Caran (Caran-2, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-2, morm-3)
SpM ≠> Feanor => Caran (Caran-3, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-2, morm-3)
Spawn => Mith (Caran-3, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1)
Cailín => Caran (Caran-4, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1)
Mithalwen => Caran (Caran-5, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1)
lmp ≠> Spawn => SpM (Caran-5, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1, SpM-1)
Celuien => Caran (Caran-6, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1, SpM-1)
Mithalwen ≠> Caran => SpM (Caran-5, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1, SpM-2)
Durelin => SpM (Caran-5, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1, SpM-3)
Caran ≠> Feanor => SpM (Caran-5, Durelin-1, morm-3, Mith-1, SpM-4)
Fin => Mith (Caran-5, Durelin-1, morm-3, Mith-2, SpM-4)
Nogrod => morm (Caran-5, Durelin-1, morm-4, Mith-2, SpM-4)
tgwbs ≠> morm => SpM (Caran-5, Durelin-1, morm-3, Mith-2, SpM-5)

Thank you, Guy. This has been even more nerve-wracking then when I was an orc

I feel especially bad if we've been forced into lynching an innocent SpM because we don't have time to properly analyze him... I'm willing to change my vote if people can make convincing arguments for others.

06-01-2006, 03:03 PM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	OK will take a flyer since if you are right I seem to be a designated potential victim and it will mix things up a bit. This strategy makes you so vulnerable if it backfires that I will chance trusting you: --Caranlondien ++ Saucepan Man Well he did say he wanted to be suspected __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-01-2006, 03:31 PM	#5
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	All because I didn't buy your werewolf weariness, eh, Elempi? Touchy, touchy! Still, thanks for garnering me a few votes. Just as long as they don't stack up much more. Durelin, if I seem to lack direction, it is because I am probing and prodding. I am not entirely convinced that Fea is as pure as she makes out. But I didn't like the way that Caran jumped on my vote for her. That, added to the other things about Caran that have been aired today, makes her look very Wolfish in my eyes. I am rather alarmed over Mith's uncharacteristic flip-floppiness, but that is a matter that I shall have to look into tomorrow if I am still here. I am leaving now and won't be back before the deadline, so if any Wolves who have not yet voted for me want to take the opportunity to try to get me lynched, please feel free to do so. It won't do you any favours though. Edit: Cross-posted with Caran, among others. What a surprise! She has changed her vote yet again. How did I guess she might do that ...? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-01-2006, 03:46 PM	#11
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Well the conference is over and I've only done a minimal perusal of posts and I see differing opinions on my WW Weariness. Let's just say that RL issues that cropped up along with a rather long and stressful last game have caused this. I hope somebody with great leech craft can heal me soon and I predict by tomorrow I may be in normal form but we shall see. I cannot provide any detail analysis of the day because I haven't read much of anything. I will do better. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

06-01-2006, 03:45 PM	#13
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	As Find ran away from accountability, I will try to lynch the one I think is the least innocent or helpful. ++ Morm EDIT: X-posted with Caran __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

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06-01-2006, 03:20 PM	#3
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	This is interesting. The three leaders are now morm, SpM and Caran.I'd be glad to kill off SpM just because he's infathomable. But I don't know how I feel towards Caran. She admits she is easily manipulated - but would the wolves risk killing Form if she were amongst them? I doubt it. So I shall wait and see. If I have time, I will analyse Caran as I originally meant to. If not, my vote will stay with morm or change to SpM.

06-01-2006, 03:25 PM	#4
Findëasëa Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63	Wow, two bandwagons in a row. I feel that the wolves are behind the creation of at least one of them. I am sticking with my belief that Caran is innocent. I will vote for either SPM or Mith in a bit, I just got back and I want to review a bit more first.

06-01-2006, 03:40 PM	#7
Findëasëa Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63	A lot of people seem to be suspicious to me today, but I cant seem to find a particular person who sticks out the most to me. Unfortunately, I have to place my vote now. I mentioned earlier that the people who are most suspicious to me at this point are those who have offered more commentary than theorizing. For this reason I feel quite suspicious of a few people, of these I will vote for Mith, after looking over her actions for the past two days she seems highly suspicious. She does say that she is very busy in the RL, which may explain some of her behavior that I find suspicious. I was not able to finish my analysis of her, but what I have found seems incriminating enough to warrant a vote in my opinion. Most of her comments on the first day were either very abstract or carefully worded so as to not incriminate. Her recent comment, which assures the village that she could not possibly be a wolf, as she would have killed SPM seemed like a very bizarre defense. This behavior seems very wolf like to me. ++Mith

06-01-2006, 03:43 PM	#8
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	Fin... that's pathetic. I'm bringing up that throwaway vote tomorrow. I'm inclined to vote SpM, but I don't know what happens if I create a tie. Let me check... Tum te tum.

06-01-2006, 03:51 PM	#14
Caranlondien Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bag-Endless-Fuel Posts: 339	LMP => Caran (Caran-1) morm => Caran (Caran-2) LMP ≠> Caran => Spawn (Caran-1, Spawn-1) Lhuna => Durelin (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1) Lommy => morm (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, morm-1) SPM => Feanor (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-1) Tom => morm (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-2) Caran => Feanor (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-2, morm-2) tgwbs => Morm (Caran-1, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-2, morm-3) Fea => Caran (Caran-2, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-2, morm-3) SpM ≠> Feanor => Caran (Caran-3, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-2, morm-3) Spawn => Mith (Caran-3, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1) Cailín => Caran (Caran-4, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1) Mithalwen => Caran (Caran-5, Spawn-1, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1) lmp ≠> Spawn => SpM (Caran-5, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1, SpM-1) Celuien => Caran (Caran-6, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1, SpM-1) Mithalwen ≠> Caran => SpM (Caran-5, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1, SpM-2) Durelin => SpM (Caran-5, Durelin-1, Feanor-1, morm-3, Mith-1, SpM-3) Caran ≠> Feanor => SpM (Caran-5, Durelin-1, morm-3, Mith-1, SpM-4) Fin => Mith (Caran-5, Durelin-1, morm-3, Mith-2, SpM-4) Nogrod => morm (Caran-5, Durelin-1, morm-4, Mith-2, SpM-4) tgwbs ≠> morm => SpM (Caran-5, Durelin-1, morm-3, Mith-2, SpM-5) Thank you, Guy. This has been even more nerve-wracking then when I was an orc I feel especially bad if we've been forced into lynching an innocent SpM because we don't have time to properly analyze him... I'm willing to change my vote if people can make convincing arguments for others.