Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXII: Hic Monstrae Trucidant

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I feel so important that y'all are so keen on me just now. Sad, really... used to be that when somebody tried to kill me, I knew they were evil... or just trying to find out how my Great Glass Feavator works... or getting the recipe for Gobstoppers... you all know the drill, I'm sure, especially with the enthusiasm with which dentists seem to approach my customers.

Nowadays? No... nobody trusts poor Fea. And she's almost always pure as the ingredients she puts into sweets as sweet as she is. Sure, sometimes the sweet is a little nutty, but you know the old saying... Almond Joy's got nuts, Mounds don't. Must be Nilp and Spam don't like Almond Joys, but such is the sad lot of a confectionist working in a small town.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

That reminds me. Shortie hasn't caught Wartortle yet, hasn't he? If he had . . .

Does anybody have an Electabuzz here? How about a Zapdos?

I thought you were a chess ex-world champion.

Well, you can't exactly use the Nimzo-Indian on a turtle that blasts targets with water, can you?

[Cailín]

About the Changeling, Celuien, I don't think s/he becomes a threat to this village till much later on. As s/he is only ever wolvish during Night time, s/he shall be primarily on the village's side. Because of the Seer-like quality of the role, the wolves will probably have slain this wildcard far before it becomes a liability to us. Otherwise, I think it's a case of let's worry when we need to worry.

Well, I had this really nice story worked out for this village, but -and it's quite tragic really, tragic, tragic- somehow I lost it into virtually reality so I shall give you a brief summary. Soon in a theatre near you, with I, the Leading Lady, in a role of such dramatics, passion and misguided innocence, it has never been shown before.

Summary: We're all going to die. Lhuna will be first.

++LHUNARDAWEN

Oh no, this Kath was first, huh? Well, death by a flying turtle just lacks the finesse to work on stage.

(More reason hopefully to arrive after a nice, long day of classes. See you all tonight)

[Formendacil]

As promised, after having been gone for a while, I am back... and destined to be gone again and back again at least once more ere the village's day is over.

Don't know why I bother... there's nothing of use happening. But a promise is a promise, and I'm a wanderer of my word.

As usual, someone sums up all the stereotypes for us (this time it was Saucy), throwing in a few off-the-cuff remarks. Some people sum up what's happened so far (that would be me). There's been confusion about the rules (retractable votes, see Celuien). There's been blessedly little discussion about the new role (the Changling). And, retractable votes being the norm, there has been some voting.

All in all, the same old, same old...

.... be back later, after someone has said something suspicious and is looking likely to be lynched for it.

[Nogrod]

Killed by an eagle using a turtle! So we'll just figure out all the turtle- and eaglelike characters and put them in a line to be questioned...

But really. I think we can do better than this. The feel in the village is like we were all gathered on a picnic. Still we quite definitively have to lynch someone in the evening. And this way we just end up with wild guesses (and messing it all up with all these retractions).

This Changeling, though is our real asset - as soon as s/he realizes it truly. I'm in total agreement with Spm here:

The likelihood is that the Changeling will end up on the village's side at the end. Ergo she should act on behalf of the village throughout, even when she chooses a Wolf's identity to steal at Night. Use the power of the Wolves against them, my dear, that's my advice.

I would add to this, that the Changeling - if alive on Day4 or something - should actually take her/his role as our second seer by then. S/he's not allowed to say that she knows the things because of her role, but no one can deny any one of us to write f.ex. "I just know that X, Y & Z are innocents and W is a wolf". I think we should be on the lookout for that kind of messages later on the game - and the Changeling should make them. With two seers, we're having the upper hand here.

[Thinlómien]

Poor Kath.
May she rest in peace.

I think the Changeling is an advantage to the village in most cases. If she (I use feminine pronouns of all unknowns) chooses a wolf, she can mess the wolves' plans by killing someone they don't plan to kill. If she chooses an ordo, we know for sure that she's on our side.

The only problem about her is that she can mess the gifteds' plans as well as the wolves' plans. Anyway, if we have stupid gifteds (which I hope we don't) that can be an advantage as well. Besides, even then she's not evil.

Retractable votes create confusion. There are lots of early votes thrown around... I understand people just want to stir the discussion a bit, or have fun, but wouldn't that make a perfect cover for a wolf? Especially when there's plenty of these random votes around...

[Thinlómien]

I could maybe join the "I hate Day 1s"-club. Everybody's just babbling nonsense except a few changeling-speculations.

I would like to say that Cailín's usually more reasonable and her behaviour today worries me, but the prevailing conditions being retractable votes and Day 1, I really can't say anything, except that whoever the wolves are it's easy to hide for them toDay.

I think that it's quite probable that at least one wolf-on-wolf-vote will be thrown toDay and be retracted.

My lunch break draws to its end, so I have to go. I will be back before Nightfall...

edit: xed with spawn

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Well, these retractable votes are sure fun to play with, and they probably will be used as bluffs on both Good and Evil side, but usually when someone has received a vote, the villagers have been able to draw conclusions throughout the Day about who voted for whom and how they did react. Now with the votes flying around, receiving one isn't a big deal, so if we want to get somewhere toDay, I'd suggest making as serious theories as possible. I don't mean that we'd need to abandon the Day 1 frolicing, it's quite fun, really, but I think there is often plenty of material for something more concrete, too, than just the village banter.

Originally Posted by Sauce

PPS The likelihood is that the Changeling will end up on the village's side at the end. Ergo she should act on behalf of the village throughout, even when she chooses a Wolf's identity to steal at Night. Use the power of the Wolves against them, my dear, that's my advice.

That's what I was thinking, too. The rules don't specify if the Changeling should work for the Wolves' benefit if s/he stumbles across one. Seeing that the Changeling has the power to decide on the Night's kill, s/he could just pick someone who looks the most suspicious to him/her (I assume s/he can't choose to kill the Wolf whose role s/he stole) - or can't the Wolves kill each other?