Orcs and Elves compete in Song Contest - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lalaith · 05-21-2006, 12:52 PM

I once shook hands with Morten Harket. I didn't wash it for weeks....you're so right Mith, he'd have made a lovely Noldo.

Mithalwen · 05-21-2006, 01:06 PM

And look pointy ears!!!

Hookbill the Goomba · 05-21-2006, 01:14 PM

Is it Middle Earth Idol gone wild?

My reaction last night was "Wow, all that's missing is a giant flaming eye in the background". Or some guy dressed as Saruman coming on stage and saying to the lead singer, "Whom do you serve?"

Although, I'll bet if you watch them live, you might see their manager:

And the elf dancing! Oh, I can say no more as I only saw clips of them on the news.

Next year, watch out for Gothmog and the Balrogs singing their hit single "Burning burning, burning!"

Lalwendë · 05-21-2006, 01:26 PM

When I first saw a picture of the Orc fellas I thought it was GWAR, who do have a Tolkien inspired song. But I mean this whole heartedly, listen to them at your peril. They are not pleasant.

I'm quite amused at the prospect of Scandinavian countries being inspired in future to maybe put some of their black or death metal bands forward for Eurovision.

The 1,000 Reader · 05-21-2006, 01:59 PM

Wow. The elves must have really lost their musical touch to get beaten by orcs.

Estelyn Telcontar · 05-21-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The 1,000 Reader

Wow. The elves must have really lost their musical touch to get beaten by orcs.

Not necessarily - the one thing that's certain about the Eurovision Song Contest is that quality is not necessary for winning. The best entries did not place well...

Kath · 05-21-2006, 03:31 PM

Oh now, we all know Eurovision isn't about the songs. Or do none of you hear Terry Wogan's commentary

The Elves were ok, the song was pretty but it got dull fast. Whereas the Orcs kept you amused at least!

Nogrod · 05-21-2006, 03:34 PM

I can't say that I like the kind of music Lordi plays - or their particular way of doing it. But if one looks at the history of the Eurovision song contest, especially the last 10-20 years, that surely was refreshing!

I guess most of the votes for Lordi came from people who normally don't bother to vote for the contest because it's all so trimmed and clean "Euro-pop" that no-one with any real interest in music will ever consent to even listen...

But this Scandinavia - Tolkien - Monster-Heavy / Elven folkmusic -thing I think is an obvious one. I at least - as a Scandinavian - can see the connection pretty well. I couldn't see these kinds of things coming out from Guatemala or Myanmar (or Monaco, France or Austria).

With this I think it quite understandable, why Tolkien's books are so highly appreciated in the Scandinavian countries (they are appreciated elsewhere too, surely

). After all, he picked a lot from our lore & languages to build up his world.

And I can't see the pick being a random-one, when the Finninsh band Värttinä was called up to make the music to the Toronto-musical. There are the same stories, the same sentiments I think Tolkien himself was after. (And I'm not trying say this is exclusively Scandinavian - but still something very essential to it)

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-21-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalwendë

Personally, I thought the most Orcish entry was the British one, which was so cringeworthy I couldn't bring myself to watch; at least 80's hair metal has the necessary Eurovision kitsch factor, so I was quite pleased an act like that won it.

It always surprises me that for a country that can produce such great artists and bands we always end up with such dreadful Eurovision entries. But it's Eurovision I suppose so quality is most definately not assured.

I didn't hear the British entry but it sounded pretty dreadful from the reports. Still, at least they picked up a few points, which is progress. Remember the duo that couldn't even sing in tune ...

Did the Elvish entry "tra-la-lally"? That could explain why they didn't do so well ...

05-21-2006, 12:52 PM	#1
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	I once shook hands with Morten Harket. I didn't wash it for weeks....you're so right Mith, he'd have made a lovely Noldo. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

05-21-2006, 01:06 PM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,463	And look pointy ears!!! __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-21-2006, 01:14 PM	#3
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	Sauron approves of ye band. Is it Middle Earth Idol gone wild? My reaction last night was "Wow, all that's missing is a giant flaming eye in the background". Or some guy dressed as Saruman coming on stage and saying to the lead singer, "Whom do you serve?" Although, I'll bet if you watch them live, you might see their manager: And the elf dancing! Oh, I can say no more as I only saw clips of them on the news. Next year, watch out for Gothmog and the Balrogs singing their hit single "Burning burning, burning!" __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket... Last edited by Hookbill the Goomba; 05-21-2006 at 01:25 PM.

05-21-2006, 01:26 PM	#4
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	When I first saw a picture of the Orc fellas I thought it was GWAR, who do have a Tolkien inspired song. But I mean this whole heartedly, listen to them at your peril. They are not pleasant. I'm quite amused at the prospect of Scandinavian countries being inspired in future to maybe put some of their black or death metal bands forward for Eurovision. __________________ Gordon's alive!

05-21-2006, 01:59 PM	#5
The 1,000 Reader Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: I don't know. Eastern ME doesn't have maps. Posts: 527	Wow. The elves must have really lost their musical touch to get beaten by orcs. __________________ "And forth went Morgoth, and he was halted by the elves. Then went Sauron, who was stopped by a dog and then aged men. Finally, there came the Witch-King, who destroyed Arnor, but nobody seems to remember that." -A History of Villains

05-21-2006, 03:31 PM	#7
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Oh now, we all know Eurovision isn't about the songs. Or do none of you hear Terry Wogan's commentary The Elves were ok, the song was pretty but it got dull fast. Whereas the Orcs kept you amused at least! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

05-21-2006, 03:34 PM	#8
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I can't say that I like the kind of music Lordi plays - or their particular way of doing it. But if one looks at the history of the Eurovision song contest, especially the last 10-20 years, that surely was refreshing! I guess most of the votes for Lordi came from people who normally don't bother to vote for the contest because it's all so trimmed and clean "Euro-pop" that no-one with any real interest in music will ever consent to even listen... But this Scandinavia - Tolkien - Monster-Heavy / Elven folkmusic -thing I think is an obvious one. I at least - as a Scandinavian - can see the connection pretty well. I couldn't see these kinds of things coming out from Guatemala or Myanmar (or Monaco, France or Austria). With this I think it quite understandable, why Tolkien's books are so highly appreciated in the Scandinavian countries (they are appreciated elsewhere too, surely ). After all, he picked a lot from our lore & languages to build up his world. And I can't see the pick being a random-one, when the Finninsh band Värttinä was called up to make the music to the Toronto-musical. There are the same stories, the same sentiments I think Tolkien himself was after. (And I'm not trying say this is exclusively Scandinavian - but still something very essential to it)

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