Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXI: Dueling Wizards Werewolf

[Thinlómien]

An OOC announcement: I will be a smaller nuisance for those who can't stand reading several pages every day - I should focus on a school project and an upcoming exam toDay, so I will probably be flooding less...

And if I'm rementioning some things, I'm sorry, but I'm writing this as I'm reading through the thread to get done with this faster (see above^) and I'm too lazy to edit it all...

On Eomer

First of all, I can't quite understand where all these suspicion on him has suddenly sprung from. I don't mean he seems innocent to me (he actually is a neither innocent nor extremely suspicious -case), but I'm rather wary of anyone just making a case out of nothing, though it would be reasonably founded. Anyway, my comments and speculations on the topic:

Originally Posted by mormegil

He also has been using the shield icon rather frequently

I wouldn't think that to be of any significance, morm, since uses it in discussions etc. quite often. Or maybe he has some kind of strategy: if there's no shield, he lies, if there is, he speaks the truth - or something like that. So he could convey messages to his wolves.

Maybe he actually did curse her, if he is the EW... if that's so, I would certainly look to Lommy.

Sorry, Firefoot, but I think that is a bit far-fetched. If he was the EW and I was a wolf, why would he speak truth about other wolves, but not of me? I can't follow your logic...

Originally Posted by Eomer

And, because the wolves do not know each other ...

If he really is the EW, does he tell the truth here?

His vote for Nogrod seemed strange to me even on Day1 as he had not suspected Noggie before. What he himself says on the topic is:

Originally Posted by Eomer

Oh, and Lommy, my vote from nowhere? Um...yeah, it was pretty much a random Day One vote. I could have voted for pretty much anyone. It wasn't as if I was railing against Fea and then changed my vote to Nogrod out of nowhere!

This might point towards he being the EW, or not, but we shouldn't forget this comment...

On other subjects

Originally Posted by mormegil

Oh one other plus about getting Nogrod off, besides being a wolf, it slows down the talk a bit

I hope you're not saying you wish I'm lynched or eaten next...

The people who think I'm suspicious because of trying to be helpful should have a look at Diamond and her Day1 quoting project... Anyway, Di, it was (maybe) useful, or I felt so at least.

Originally Posted by Diamond

The question is, did anyone else make similar posts talking up the importance of the Wolves not knowing each other?

I did, as well. I said they'd be harder to track. If you want to see the post, I think I posted it on Day 1, but that's all I remember.

Spawn has creditable points on Celuien.

I feel Lalaith's very innocent. [QUOTE0Lalaith]As for the changed wolf, there are three possibilities:
...
3. S/he is still among us. If 3, should they come forward?
[/QUOTE] She's the only one raising this topic, and this seems as she's asking advise. You can always question my reasoning here, but I gave it some thought.

I'm too confused about everything to name any suspects except Eomer and Alacrillo (< especially that one) who have nearly all the village after them.

Oh, and that Fea-theory of Eomer's - I think it's only a poor attempt to give the village another EW candidate to think about.... A bit more sound cases would be welcome, though, as I'm not sure about Eomer's guilty, though he seems suspicious.

[Lalaith]

and this seems as she's asking advise

Lommy, I did suspect that asking this question might make people think I was the changed wolf, but I really wasn't.
Now, while I am quite interested in the changed wolf question, what I am really interested in, and wish more people were too, is the 'at what point were the current wolves cursed' issue I was dwelling on earlier.
I appreciate that there's lots of wizard-hunting going on right now - which is good - but we should also still be thinking about wolves.
Eomer, as for your Fea theory, I for one will give it thought. She is definitely on that list I mentioned earlier, of people I hope aren't the EW.

[Diamond18]

First line of business,

*whacks Jenny with battledore*

That's for implying I cluttered the village with half baked theories.

Anyway, as I said last night, after reviewing Day 1 I'm not quite as impressed as I was at first with my theories about the wolves knowing each other, having a specific agenda, and the importance of mentions to the contrary -- but as it was my "big idea" and I never have any of those usually, I pursued it with gusto.

The problem with not being overly impressed with the results of deeper digging, is that it hasn't given me anyone I particularly want to vote for. So, who don't I want to vote for:

Eomer -- I didn't really fall in line with Morm's theory, though I can see how it would work, and Eomer's posts make me think it less likely. Maybe it's the big blue eyes. I dunno.

Alcarillo -- I don't find in character posting to be all that suspicious.

Celuien -- One of my theories makes her look very bad, but it's the same one that makes me look downright terrible, so I don't think I should be condeming her for it. In other words, if I'm innocent probably she is too.

There are a lot of people I don't feel strongly about one way or the other, so I don't want to vote for them for that reason.

People I might vote for:

Fea -- Interesting Wizard theory Eomer has, but... I'm not sure. On the other hand, Fea was also the only person who agreed with me about Roa possibly being a friend. While I appreciated the support, I can almost see a wizardly Fea jumping on a chance to make someone else look wizardly. Though she said the friend-thing didn't necessarily point to wizardliness, she was the only person in the entire bleedin' village who even agreed with me a little and somehow, I find that odd. If I was making any sense, a lot more people should have agreed, instead of everyone but one person thinking I was wasting space. She also voted for the two people who were saying the worst things about Nogrod -- Loki and Roa. Cailín thinks she looks very innocent but I have to disagree.

Right now, and I'm really sorry to say this, the worst looking person in my view is Azaelia. Eager to jump on the Loki bandwaggon, the Nogrod bandwaggon, the Eomer bandwaggon, and the Alcarillo bandwaggon. While I may not find lots of in character posts suspicious, per se (with Nogrod, it was also so blindingly out of character) I do find excessive bandwaggoning to be highly suspicious.

X-Posted with a bunch o' people.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Diamond18

She also voted for the two people who were saying the worst things about Nogrod -- Loki and Roa.

That's because I didn't like (still don't like) Roa's die-hard defense of Loki. She denied being "the friend" so unless she's the flippin Seer and knew that Loki was innocent and Nogrod wasn't, I can't see any semblance of intelligence of putting herself on the line to fight tooth and nail for or against anybody in situations such as these. And since I'm not of the opinion that she is a Seer (must check on tallies of gifteds to see if there even was one...), that means I'm not comfortable with her continued existance.

Gah... you people. THIS is why I never get real meals. I'm leaving. I need lunch. *pries self away*

Edit: crossed with Kit

[Diamond18]

Alright, I've got to go, I've got someone yapping at me and I can't whack her with my virtual battledores, so this'll be over and out for me toDay:

+ + Azaelia

I must be the worst mother ever. But Azaelia, of everyone who looks suspicious, looks the most suspicious.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Eomer

I was first alerted to Fea's behaviour by her constant 'sighs' that she will get herself killed. It's there in posts #79, #83 and #87. "Oh, this strategy will get me killed!" But all she was doing is advocating killing those shady characters whom the village never trusts. Hardly an outrageous suggestion. It struck me as trying too hard to stay alive.

That was something that seemed strange to me, too. I've been thinking that Fea could possibly be the EW, and I will certainly keep looking for EWish signs in her posting.

Valier, the fact that Roa's and Nogrod's ancestors have had a quarrelsome history made me wonder, too, if Roa's attack on Nogrod was meant to be just a clever cover, but I really don't think we should look for evidence in the narrations.


Thus far the votes are:

Zali -> Eomer
Nilp -> Zali
Celuien -> Alcarillo
Diamond -> Zali

Originally Posted by Gurthang

spawn is doomed

You're always so cheery, my dear boy.