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The 1,000 Reader · 04-14-2006, 08:36 PM

I mean no offense, but having numerous children isn't really something to make you that great. In that instance, I would place Rosie at the end of the list, if not taking her off completely.

Holbytlass · 04-15-2006, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The 1,000 Reader

I mean no offense, but having numerous children isn't really something to make you that great.

It does and it doesn't

. Anyone knows how much time, energy, finances one child sucks out of parents leaving them emotionally, physically, and mentally drained let alone 13, also the flipside of feelings of love, enjoyment and fulfillment.

But I actually agree with The 1,000 Reader that having 13 children alone doesn't make a person great. I have four and that doesn't make me stupendous.

I think what makes Rosie great is what isn't written. Rosie falls into the category of a great woman behind a great man. This is pure specualtion but I don't think I'm wrong when I say Rosie supported Sam 100% in his political career, Sam is the type of man if he didn't have Rosie's support or if she didn't want him to he would not have been mayor for so many terms.

Rosie should stay on the list but there is more to her than children.

Tuor in Gondolin · 04-15-2006, 08:51 AM

The list is theoretically in order of "merit", and
to some extent of a humorus nature. Taking
comments into account:

1-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo
2-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo
3-The Bullroarer kills an orc defending The Shire
4-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar
5-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation
6-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring
7-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen
8-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin
9-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise
10-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders
11-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale
12-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone
13-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella
14-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor
15-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm
16-Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring
17-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail
18-Pippin kills a troll

Any additions/subtractions/alterations in such a list to make?
I'm actually unsure as to #1 and #2 shouldn't be flipflopped,
given that Bilbo barely surrendered the Ring with Gandalf's
help and Sam gave it up while figuratively in the shadow of Mount Doom.

Anguirel · 04-15-2006, 08:55 AM

And why on earth is Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring not at the very top? Saving the world is pretty pedestrian; Frodo managed to be the only Hobbit ever to break the mould and achieve a Turinesque, almost Feanorian moment of hubris and grandeur...

Tuor in Gondolin · 04-15-2006, 09:03 AM

Because he failed. A failure (granted it apparently would have
been a failure for anyone) isn't an achievement. But
it will be bumped up.

1-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo
2-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo
3-The Bullroarer kills an orc defending The Shire
4-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar
5-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation
6-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring
7-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen
8-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin
9-Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring
10-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise
11-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders
12-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale
13-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone
14-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella
15-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor
16-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm
17-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail
18-Pippin kills a troll

Elu Ancalime · 04-15-2006, 08:23 PM

Maybe not great as in woohoo, but important: Deagol going fishing?

Whoops, nevermind....
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Macalaure · 04-17-2006, 08:27 AM

Just remembered the Hobbit archers that fought against Angmar.
Sure, their effect was slim to none, but a valiant deed this was.

04-15-2006, 08:51 AM	#3
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	The list is theoretically in order of "merit", and to some extent of a humorus nature. Taking comments into account: 1-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo 2-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo 3-The Bullroarer kills an orc defending The Shire 4-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar 5-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation 6-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring 7-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen 8-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin 9-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise 10-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders 11-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale 12-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone 13-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella 14-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor 15-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm 16-Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring 17-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail 18-Pippin kills a troll Any additions/subtractions/alterations in such a list to make? I'm actually unsure as to #1 and #2 shouldn't be flipflopped, given that Bilbo barely surrendered the Ring with Gandalf's help and Sam gave it up while figuratively in the shadow of Mount Doom. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

04-15-2006, 08:55 AM	#4
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	And why on earth is Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring not at the very top? Saving the world is pretty pedestrian; Frodo managed to be the only Hobbit ever to break the mould and achieve a Turinesque, almost Feanorian moment of hubris and grandeur... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

04-15-2006, 09:03 AM	#5
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Because he failed. A failure (granted it apparently would have been a failure for anyone) isn't an achievement. But it will be bumped up. 1-Bilbo leaves the Ring for Frodo 2-Sam Gives the Ring back to Frodo 3-The Bullroarer kills an orc defending The Shire 4-Merry helps slay the Witchking of Angmar 5-Bilbo goes down the tunnel to first Smaug confrontation 6-Gollum's epic efforts to regain the Ring 7-Frodo defies the nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen 8-Deagol finds the Ring in the Anduin 9-Frodo's failed effort to destroy the Ring 10-Rosie has numerous children and emotionally supports Samwise 11-Bilbo saves the dwarves from the giant spiders 12-Bilbo gives the Arkenstone to the elves and men of Dale 13-Bilbo returns to Erebor after giving up the Arkenstone 14-Lobelia confronts Sharkey's gang with her umbrella 15-Frodo finally (with "assistance" from Boromir) decides to go to Mordor 16-Bilbo gets the dwarves out of Thranduil's Realm 17-Fatty Bolger stays behind to cover Frodo's trail 18-Pippin kills a troll __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

04-15-2006, 08:23 PM	#6
Elu Ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anador Posts: 476	Maybe not great as in woohoo, but important: Deagol going fishing? Whoops, nevermind.... ________ Grow Medical Marijuana Last edited by Elu Ancalime; 03-03-2011 at 11:50 PM.

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04-14-2006, 08:36 PM	#1
The 1,000 Reader Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: I don't know. Eastern ME doesn't have maps. Posts: 527	I mean no offense, but having numerous children isn't really something to make you that great. In that instance, I would place Rosie at the end of the list, if not taking her off completely. __________________ "And forth went Morgoth, and he was halted by the elves. Then went Sauron, who was stopped by a dog and then aged men. Finally, there came the Witch-King, who destroyed Arnor, but nobody seems to remember that." -A History of Villains

04-17-2006, 08:27 AM	#7
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Just remembered the Hobbit archers that fought against Angmar. Sure, their effect was slim to none, but a valiant deed this was.