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Old 03-30-2006, 04:29 PM   #1
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He also mentioned this again a little later. I find it very odd that he wants to vote for the people in Nogrod's post yeaterday. Nogrod based those on the fact that Valier hinted at that she left hints in her first posts. But even after Valier says it was a bluff Glirdan still wants to look into it. What's the point if the moddess said there was nothing there?
I do realise that Valier came and said not to look at the posts. However, how can we be sure that Nogrod wasn't off? By taking your, Lommy and Teleperca's word on it? I'm afraid that doesn't cut it. That's what really bugs me. Nogrod got one right. How do we know that he didn't get the other two??

And it seems that I cross-posted with Diamond and Wilwa in my post above...
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:40 PM   #2
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It also seems that I just x-posted with Kitanna as well.

However, I rather like the points that Kitanna has just brought up.

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I tried to make the best choice I could yesterday, thining about my own safety toDAY, and I guess I made the wrong choice. I obviously would have been better not voting, which I guess is what Glirdan realised.
Ok, I find it odd that Wilwa said this. I mean most of us are trying to be as careful as possible, but there's just something about this that gets me. I can't really explain it, but it's like "hey I voted to save my own skin because I have something to hide." Maybe I'm being irrational because I'm cold, wet, and tired, but This statement by Wilwa and her voting statement from yesterday have put me off.
I know Wilwa as a smart player and it seems (as Kitanna said) rather odd that she said that. What makes me more suspicious of her as well as Roa now is this:

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I doubt seriously that a cat would kill someone who was suspicious of them, so Nogrod's list is out in my mind. I also believe that the placement of her vote means nothing.
As far as I know, Nogrod didn't post any real suspcions of anyone other than Sleepy. So really, the Wolves attacking choice was a rather smart one. Not only did they get rid of the person who pinpointed one of the Wolves, they got rid of one of the most vocal villagers who contributed greatly. What makes me really suspcious (and once again, I realise that the Modess has said to not look at them for clues) is the fact that he got a Wolf out of that group of people from the rhyme. That is why I'm suspciouis of Wilwa. I've seen no reason to be suspicious of Lommy or Teleperca. Wilwa on the other hand is looking more suspcious to me.

Edit - cross posted with a bunch of people. And now it's down to me to either break the tie, not vote and get "lynched" by the Modess (out of the question) or to vote someone other then Garin or Eonwe (both which [after proof that has just come up] are seeming rather guilty).

Here's the voting thus far:

Eonwe (Farael, Morm, Diamond) - 3
Wilwarin (Garin, Alcarillo) - 2
Glirdan (Thinlo, Wilwa) - 2
Alcarillo (Form) - 1
Garin (Roa, Kath, Kitanna) -3

Do I dare vote someone else for a double lynch?? I don't think I should....but I don't want to be part of the masses just to save myself trouble tomorrow...I've always been told to vote for the one I'm most suspicious of...but I don't know if I should do that now...GRRR!! This is so frustrating. But I still have fifteen minutes to decide...I'll be back in five minutes to cast my vote...
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:46 PM   #3
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1420! It's down to this

Eonwe (Farael, Morm, Diamond) - 3
Garin (Roa, Kath, Kitanna) - 3
Wilwarin (Garin, Alcarillo) - 2
Glirdan (Thinlo, Wilwa) - 2
Alcarillo (Form) - 1

Someone's going to have to break the tie between Eonwe and Garin. A vote for Wilwa just creates a three way.
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:52 PM   #4
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Diamond, when I'm dead and gone, you'll eat your words. Like I said, IF I was a cat, I would have voted for someone with 2-3 votes, not start my own candidate. Anyway, I had been saying so the either day.

I could vote Garin to save myself, but I don't think I will. After all, an innocent is very likely going to die anyway. If not me, than someoe, right?

I think I'm going to vote Wilwa. I just don't feel comfortable with her. And I don't have a better candidate, soooo:

++Wilwa

Also, I am a bit leery of Morm. I don't really know why, though. He just seems like too smooth a player. That's player as in game, not playa as in playa.
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Oh ho, your so right Diamond. My bad, I wasn't really keeping up on votes too well. I need to do some frantic calculations.
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:54 PM   #6
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--Wilwa

++Garin

There are two poeple left to vote. Telperaca seems to be pulling a Witch Queen...

This is obviously not my preference, but it better than a three way tie...
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Fine, I'm casting my vote now (Eonwe just voted and the breaking of a tie doesn't rest with me). I'm going to vote for the one whom I find most suspicious.

++Wilwa

Read my above post for reasons as to why.
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:59 PM   #8
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Oh, to explain myself now instead of later. I voted Wilwa (even though it is a useless safe vote) because she is the one I am most suspicious of. May we catch another Wolf toDay.
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Old 03-30-2006, 05:01 PM   #9
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Garin (Roa, Kath, Kitanna, Eonwe) - 4
Eonwe (Farael, Morm, Diamond) - 3
Wilwarin (Garin, Alcarillo, Glirdan) - 3
Glirdan (Thinlo, Wilwa) - 2
Alcarillo (Form) - 1
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I just got looking back at the voting and nobody has really done a deep analysis of this yet. But I noticed that both of Diamond's vote were done at a time that seem like an attempt to save both wolves. She voted for the other prime candidate during a crucial time. Fortunately we were able to overcome it and kill both cats but this is too much to pass over.
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Old 04-01-2006, 10:03 AM   #11
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1420!

Hmmmm... got a quick minute.

I like Thin's idea.

- - Thinlomien

+ + Telperaca

That's all I have time for.
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Here's a list of yesterday's voting:

Garin (Roa, Kath, Kitanna) - 3
Eonwe (Farael, Morm, Diamond) - 3
Wilwarin (Garin, Alcarillo, Glirdan, Eonwe) - 4
Glirdan (Thinlo, Wilwa) - 2
Alcarillo (Form) - 1

If you notice, Wilwa voted for me. Who's to say that the other person (Lommy) who voted for me isn't a Wolf as well, and this was their way of trying to get rid of another innocent??

But now that I look back on this, it could also count against Eonwe who changed his vote plenty of times yesterDay. He's definetly one worth watching if Lommy and Teleperca end up not being a Wolf.

Another point against Thinlo. By attacking Kitanna last, night, she could be sure that no one could draw anything betweent them as Lommy didn't even mention Kitanna once except for the analysis bit which Garin said he'd do (he couldn't post his results). In short, their was not attachment between the two which made Kitanna the perfect attack for Thinlo.

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Thinlómien, speaks sense against Telperaca. She is going to die anyway, why risk loosing two innocent villagers today when unless something changed Telperaca will die anyway(morm)
Because it's a waste of a vote. We've got about, what, six hours left before the Day ends and she hasn't shown up once. I agree that this behaviour is awfully suspicious. However, this could also be another attempt by Lommy to get the suspicion off of her. I say that we lynch Lommy and let the Moddess take care of Teleperca if she doesn't show up. If she does, well...my vote would still be for Lommy because there is much more to go off.

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I have come to a rather opposite conclusion of Thinlomien than you Glirdan. I agree she has done some things that look rather suspicious but I don't think she is guilty. Rather I think she is fairly vocal and attempting to be helpful, but happens to choose the wrong path to persue. One thing I like about her is that she doesn't seem to always go with the current trend or the majority. She thinks for herself, and that is more than can be said of some of you
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I agree that she is rather vocal and does make some substance in her posts, yet if you look at her Day 1 posts, there's barely any substance at all. I understand that it was Day 1 and Day 1's are blah, but that doesn't mean you can't post substantially. But we're all entitled to our own opinion so I will not try and change your mind morm.
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:57 PM   #13
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Diamond, when I'm dead and gone, you'll eat your words. Like I said, IF I was a cat, I would have voted for someone with 2-3 votes, not start my own candidate. Anyway, I had been saying so the either day.
Well we could get into an argument about game tactics, but I personally like for votes to count, and don't think it's wolf/cattish to try and influence who gets lynched. *shrug*

So even if you are innocent I don't intend to eat my words... you wouldn't be the first innocent to be suspected by another innocent, so if my strategy seems cattish to others, well, so be it.

Like I said, a vote for Wilwa is pretty useless at the moment.
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Well we could get into an argument about game tactics, but I personally like for votes to count, and don't think it's wolf/cattish to try and influence who gets lynched. *shrug*

So even if you are innocent I don't intend to eat my words... you wouldn't be the first innocent to be suspected by another innocent, so if my strategy seems cattish to others, well, so be it.

Like I said, a vote for Wilwa is pretty useless at the moment.
I just noticed this as well. It appears that Diamond is trying to make it seem like she wanted to vote for Wilwa but actually failed to do so. The voting was close enough and with retractable votes it could have changed. She attempted to add to the distance from Wilwa and Eonwe instead of voting who she actually stated she 'suspects' though I doubt she suspected her at all but is actually a partner in crime and villiany.
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Morm,

I said a vote for Wilwa would be useless because at that point it would have created a tie. I think actually a three way tie. There was a flurry of activity that changed that . but at the moment of my typing, it was shaping up to be a Eonwe/Garn/Wilwa tie. Also I stated all Day yesterDay that I had no intention to vote for Wilwa/Thin/Telp because of my red herring theory in regards to Nogrod. So saying I was trying to make it sound like I wanted to vote for Wilwa is misrepresentation.

At any rate, if you feel it's in your best interest to lynch me, you must do as you must.
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Well, I think that we should just leave Telperaca alone, if we can't double-lynch her. She'll just die out anyway, and our problem will be solved. Anyway, don't you think she would be giving it a bit more time, if she was a cat? Not to mention, we are in such great shape. I've never seen cats lynched consecutively on the first and second days. We have plenty of innocents to spare, so I say we lynch away...

I agree with Glirdan that Farael is looking fairly good. Though I would have thought he would have given up by now, considering my voteing yesterDay. That cuts down on his innocents...but I'm not ready to vote for him yet. What I mean is, maybe he feels obligated to go after me because that's waht he's been doing. For some reason I think that makes him look bad...

I think we might actaully have a pretty hard time of this one. Look at all the people we have. Form, Acarillo, Morm, Kath, Roa, and Garin are heardly being talked about, as far as I can see, but there is nothing to prove their innocence. Just a thought...
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