Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIX: Ang Sagang Daga, bow.

[littlemanpoet]

What a fun game! I had a blast!

You may note that in my "final posts" of each Day, one of my lists was the known innocents. So if I had never 'revealed', you would have likely smacked yourselves on the forehead and said, "How obvious!"

Yes, the double seer is quite powerful. But maybe it's a good option without the Lovers, having four werewolves...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I could have told you that would happen. Oh wait, I did....

It wasn't quite as damning as Anguirel's Heroes game where we brave souls had to throw in the towel almost immediately, but it did remind me of that.

Is there any doubt now that double-lynchings are no fun?

Regardless...

...well done villagers! You were ruthlessly efficient and I'm very proud of you all.

Especial credit to LMP, whom I thought pursued a brilliant Seer strategy.

[Celuien]

Wow! Great game, everyone!

I think I'm jinxed. Every single time I write a long, elaborate post overnight, one of the wolves eats me.

Originally Posted by TGWBS

Good game people! Being Nilp was hilarious, I assure you. And I was quite glad to go when I did really... otherwise I'd have confused you all to death.

You did a good job of being confusing, don't worry. Nilp should be proud.

Originally Posted by Nilp

I did do two male, two female Werewolves. I just didn't want you to know. By the time of Kath and Lhunardawen's death you wouldn't have needed the Seer--you would have just double-lynched the males to victory. Not a good ending for me.

Actually, I assumed there was an equal ratio because I thought that having an unequal ratio in among the wolves would have made to too easy for them to skew kills toward the gender most likely to contain the ordo Lover. At least that's what I thought until the question came up and I realized that we really shouldn't know the wolf pack composition because it would make our job too easy.

I liked having the Lovers. It added a new dimension of complexity above the Bear by having two members on the separate team and guaranteeing that the non-wolf population would drop after the wolf-Lover's demise.

Originally Posted by Nilp

The Seer-iffs are too powerful.

Maybe having two non-communicating Seers would balance out better. They could dream on alternate nights until one dies. Then the remaining Seer could proceed with nightly dreams.

[Gurthang]

Interesting game. I've gotta tell you, Formendacil, that I didn't really suspect you until last Night. I don't know why, but I was thinking that Lalaith and Cailin would want to lynch you, and for some reason it just felt right. You did a good job of playing hidden, and you were even my top 'innocent' after that ridiculously long analysis of everyone that I did.

That pretty much proves to me that analysis doesn't really work. At least for me.

Thanks for asking me to play, Nilp. I'm glad your game happened over my Spring Break (which is over tomorrow!), or I wouldn't have been able to play.

The Lover's, in my mind, would be the hardest role of all to play, by far. In no other role is your fate directly tied with someone else's. Basically, the pair is like a Black Beorning, but just twice as easy to kill since there are two of them.

Double lynches are only killer if the Seer gets a lot of dreams that stay alive. If LMP had been killed the Night after spawn, then the wolves would have had a good shot. I've been on both ends of the mass-lynch/double-lynch thing, and it varies greatly in my mind. If you went back to the original game, Seer-wolves-villagers only, then double lynchings would probably be less advantageous to the village.

So, great game everyone. I had a blast.

Oh, and just so everyone is fully aware, this is the longest game, as far as posts, in werewolf history. We almost got to 20 pages before the game ended!

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Well done, villagers!

Originally Posted by Nilp

The Seer-iffs are too powerful.

That's true. After lmp and I had dreamed of Lhuna, we could go ahead and make a case against her knowing that if the wolves killed one of us, the other one could still keep on dreaming without having to put oneself into danger by pointing at a wolf.

A few words of our dreams. As for our first dream, we wanted to pick someone who could possibly create a lot of confusion during the first days. For some reason, Lhuna is often suspected although she's innocent. This time we wanted to be sure what she is and chose her.

On Night 2, our two dream candidates were Samwise and Gurthang. Both of them had acted in a way that looked wolvish to us, and we agreed to dream of Gurthang first and wait till Night 3 with Samwise. However, when Night 3 came, we were more concerned with Lalaith, Kath and Cailín. We also thought that even though Gurthang wasn't a wolf, he could still have been a Lover, and if that was the case, Cailín could have been the other Lover. So, we chose Cailín.


lmp, thank you, it was fun. You were a great Seer!

Caranlondien, that was an impressive performance. I wouldn't have ever guessed that you are a first timer. I look forward to seeing you in another game.

Eomer, "honour beyond the grave", or how did it go? Good job!

Wolves, kudos to you for daring to play such a bold game. It was great to watch.

The White-robed Prophet, well done! Thank you.


This was a really entertaining game, both to play and read, although I couldn't believe my unplucked eyes when I saw that you talked your way to page 19! Congrats on making WW history on that account.

Oh, incidentally, this is the second game where I should have died, but the mod spared my life. I wonder what's that all about...

[Thinlómien]

This was a great game! I enjoyed playing with all of you and if I may say, this was nicer than WWJ-games. So thanks Nilp from inviting me to play in a real WW - otherwise I'd still be playing the juniors. (My next game might be a juniour still - I should do something to my flip-floppiness before giving the next try.)

Great modding Nilp. Some of the deaths were incredible.

I'm glad I wasn't wrong about Samwise.

Yesterday seemed to be an interesting day - a pity that my computer had problems with the internet-connection. Anyway, it seems you did very well without me.

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

If we have had gifteds:
Thinlómien should have been the Ranger.
tar-ancalime the Hunter.
Lalaith the Cobbler.

Any reasons or was this just random? Anyway, nice to be in the list...

[Lalaith]

I'm glad I wasn't a cobbler - I get tied up in enough knots as it is....

[Kath]

Well, we lost, but it was fun while it lasted! I've remembered why I hate double lynches so much now though

I quite liked being able to PM through the Day though, and it meant Lhuna could keep up with half the conversation. Had it all been at Night she would never have got an opinion in!

[Caranlondien]

Excellent game! I'll definitely be playing another one... Although this is getting bad for my sleeping habits

Originally Posted by dancing spawn

Caranlondien, that was an impressive performance. I wouldn't have ever guessed that you are a first timer. I look forward to seeing you in another game.

Thanks! I must confess, though, I read through the most of the previous game as it was occurring. Aiwendil is my brother, so I learned a lot from him.