Survivor: The Second Age - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Anguirel · 03-23-2006, 12:54 PM

++ELROS TAR-MINYATUR

For being not so much a King of Numenor...as a worm in a can. Fie and shame upon him, starter of barren discussions!

For obviously failing his foster-father Maglor's vision of doomed romance by being mortal, wealthy and comfortable.

For dying of old age, not foeman's blade.

And for living on the charity of the tyrannical Valar.

This will be my last vote in Survivor for some time as the Latin lands call. Forward Celeborn, worthy victor and independent Elf Lord!

Diamond18 · 03-23-2006, 02:11 PM

2 for Narvi, 2 for Elros, and 1 for Celeborn.

Celeborn, while possessing many fine traits I am sure, took a back seat to Galadriel. Even a cursory glance of Tolkien's works show that. Therefore, there is no way he should outlast Galadriel in the game. I'm not much into the politics of major characters versus minor characters -- but really if Celeborn isn't going to win the whole thing (and he shouldn't), I see no reason to keep prolonging the discussion about him. We all know he can't beat Galadriel so let's not put ourselves through the pain of forcing a vote-off between the two of them.

+ + Celeborn

Celuien · 03-23-2006, 02:47 PM

No! I won't stand by while Celeborn is attacked!

++ELROS

For choosing mortality and running off to Numenor to live off the Valar.

Elu Ancalime · 03-23-2006, 05:00 PM

++Narvi

Perhaps the least important of the dwarves known only for smithy. Telchar overshadowed him, and Gamil Ziriak. Also, If he made the Doors of Moria, did he not realize what he did? He revealed the name of DUrin to anypasserbyer, and he was quick to jump on the fact that his home was a black pit. Narvi spread a bad image of the Longbeards, being hasty and open.

Elros lived to be 500. He was the greatest and most benevolent of all the Kings of Numenore, the grandest kingdom of Men. He has Elvish and divine Maia blood. How could you vote against him?
________
Ford Model B (1904) History

Lhunardawen · 03-23-2006, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anguirel

This will be my last vote in Survivor for some time as the Latin lands call. Forward Celeborn, worthy victor and independent Elf Lord!

Hehehehehe... *evil grin*

When the cat is away, daga will play.

Firefoot · 03-23-2006, 06:44 PM

Well, Elros was the other chap I was considering voting for today, and being that he's gaining a lot more support than Celeborn...

--Celeborn
++Elros

About the only thing Elros has going for him is a cool name (Tar-Minyatur - I do rather like that...). Other than that, he's not that interesting. And he causes his brother a great deal of grief by choosing mortality. Not very loving. Other than that, he did remarkably little except for live for a really long time. If you look him up in the Numenorean kings chapter in UT, that's about all it says about him. Obviously he didn't do anything worthy of winning Survivor.

Diamond18 · 03-23-2006, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celuien

No! I won't stand by while Celeborn is attacked!

You know, the longer you keep him in the game, the more likely it will be you are dooming him to a face-off with his wife for supremacy, and that could get ugly. For him.

However, as this round seems to be coming down between Elros and Narvi, if I want to actually be involved I'm going to have to change my vote.

- - Celeborn

+ + Narvi

Someone else brought this up already, but I must agree -- what kind of security is "Speak 'Friend' and Enter"? All you have to do is read the sign out loud in Elvish and voila, you can get in! That's about as good as writing, "The password is Friend. Say it. Frrrriiiieeeeend" above the door. So what if the door was created in "friendlier" times... when exactly in Middle-earth history was it ever safe to have such an easy door guard?

Firefoot · 03-23-2006, 07:57 PM

Look at it this way: who is going to attack them that way anyway? Orcs, but they aren't going to be able to read the Elvish. Any other attackers (still not sure who) probably wouldn't even get that far before they were noticed.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-23-2006, 09:00 PM

I side with my sister.

++Narvi

For being a non-entity. Seriously, we wouldn't even have heard of him if he hadn't written his name on that blasted door.

Formendacil · 03-24-2006, 01:38 AM

This Day will be twice as long as normal due to:

A.) Laziness of the Moderator

B.) To attract more votes per day.

Please note, Reason B. is an excuse for Reason A.

03-23-2006, 12:54 PM	#1
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	++ELROS TAR-MINYATUR For being not so much a King of Numenor...as a worm in a can. Fie and shame upon him, starter of barren discussions! For obviously failing his foster-father Maglor's vision of doomed romance by being mortal, wealthy and comfortable. For dying of old age, not foeman's blade. And for living on the charity of the tyrannical Valar. This will be my last vote in Survivor for some time as the Latin lands call. Forward Celeborn, worthy victor and independent Elf Lord! __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso Last edited by Anguirel; 03-23-2006 at 02:17 PM.

03-23-2006, 02:11 PM	#2
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	2 for Narvi, 2 for Elros, and 1 for Celeborn. Celeborn, while possessing many fine traits I am sure, took a back seat to Galadriel. Even a cursory glance of Tolkien's works show that. Therefore, there is no way he should outlast Galadriel in the game. I'm not much into the politics of major characters versus minor characters -- but really if Celeborn isn't going to win the whole thing (and he shouldn't), I see no reason to keep prolonging the discussion about him. We all know he can't beat Galadriel so let's not put ourselves through the pain of forcing a vote-off between the two of them. + + Celeborn __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

03-23-2006, 02:47 PM	#3
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	No! I won't stand by while Celeborn is attacked! ++ELROS For choosing mortality and running off to Numenor to live off the Valar. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

03-23-2006, 05:00 PM	#4
Elu Ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anador Posts: 476	++Narvi Perhaps the least important of the dwarves known only for smithy. Telchar overshadowed him, and Gamil Ziriak. Also, If he made the Doors of Moria, did he not realize what he did? He revealed the name of DUrin to anypasserbyer, and he was quick to jump on the fact that his home was a black pit. Narvi spread a bad image of the Longbeards, being hasty and open. Elros lived to be 500. He was the greatest and most benevolent of all the Kings of Numenore, the grandest kingdom of Men. He has Elvish and divine Maia blood. How could you vote against him? ________ Ford Model B (1904) History Last edited by Elu Ancalime; 03-03-2011 at 11:31 PM.

03-23-2006, 09:00 PM	#9
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Hmmm . . . I side with my sister. ++Narvi For being a non-entity. Seriously, we wouldn't even have heard of him if he hadn't written his name on that blasted door. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-23-2006, 06:44 PM	#6
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Well, Elros was the other chap I was considering voting for today, and being that he's gaining a lot more support than Celeborn... --Celeborn ++Elros About the only thing Elros has going for him is a cool name (Tar-Minyatur - I do rather like that...). Other than that, he's not that interesting. And he causes his brother a great deal of grief by choosing mortality. Not very loving. Other than that, he did remarkably little except for live for a really long time. If you look him up in the Numenorean kings chapter in UT, that's about all it says about him. Obviously he didn't do anything worthy of winning Survivor.

03-23-2006, 07:57 PM	#8
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Look at it this way: who is going to attack them that way anyway? Orcs, but they aren't going to be able to read the Elvish. Any other attackers (still not sure who) probably wouldn't even get that far before they were noticed.

03-24-2006, 01:38 AM	#10
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	Moderator's Note This Day will be twice as long as normal due to: A.) Laziness of the Moderator B.) To attract more votes per day. Please note, Reason B. is an excuse for Reason A. __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode