DO you want to be Aragorn? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 03-14-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalwendë

Otherwise I would be all for playing the part of Gollum, though I'd have to eat about five packets of strepsils per line.

I just can't believe, there is someone in a net-community, who talks about Strepsils!!! This is so weird! That's something my childhood consisted of...

(with Vitalis and Vitol!)... and of course, Aspirin.

Nogrod · 03-14-2006, 04:28 PM

But being more serious Morsul,

why don't we try a small part first? Let's pick a scene, get people involved and make some dealings with the roles - just to try it out. Then everyone just make their parts and mail it to the one to do the "cutting" (in this case "getting together" could be a better word), and see what comes out... A couple of pages to start with and see (hear!), how it goes?

And I will admit now, I have a music-making software on my computer. So if no-one else is ready to give it a try, I might. I can adjust the voices (add basses or high pitches, add effects etc.) and so on. At least for a trial version - just to see, if it works. I'd be happy to give that role to someone more inspired - and having more time with this kind of an errand. But we could start with my machine, with a trial. I think, there will be many problems to be solved before we get anything good enough to share with our BD -friends...

So you, Morsul, pick the scene, with quite some characters in it, all the people intrested make their parts, sending them to me, and then I combine them to a story that could be shared between us to begin with.

Then we see, if that should be continued...

EDIT:
PS: The name of this thread probably won't attract the best possible actors...

Kath · 03-14-2006, 04:31 PM

I'd love to be part of it, but can a girl play a male role? Else since Tig's taken Eowyn I've only Arwen left really!

Nogrod · 03-14-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

I'd love to be part of it, but can a girl play a male role? Else since Tig's taken Eowyn I've only Arwen left really!

That's one of the problem of Tolkien, so chauvinistic in his story-telling (well, that's called tradition, but anyways). I think that f.ex. elves could be spoken by females?

So how about Elrond's council? There would be many roles - and if we pick the thing carefully - not too many pages-long monologues either? And elves for all the female voices - and maybe for the narrator's voice too?

Just a couple of pages to try first?

Anguirel · 03-14-2006, 04:36 PM

Don't worry about that, Kath. I'll happily let you have Legolas...

Nogrod · 03-14-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Anguirel

Don't worry about that, Kath. I'll happily let you have Legolas...

Ang is having a case in point!

Kath · 03-14-2006, 04:42 PM

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Don't worry about that, Kath. I'll happily let you have Legolas...

Hey now book Legolas isn't so bad! I'll take that!

Glirdan · 03-14-2006, 04:46 PM

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Dark well Im certainly intrigued with the idea but i think if you could explain it a little more I would like it better. Do you mean we each play a charactor and act them out like oh say for instance

I'm Bilbo Bagggins

"Bilbo rubbed the ring in his pocket looking out across the party his victems would never forget the joke he was planning."

do you mean like that? if so I think that would be astounding it would give a unique veiw of the story we would be in it and know what the charactors are thinking not onl;y observing from afar.

Actually, that's pretty much exactly what I thought. Of course, it might be a little more difficult than we think, but I still believe it would be great to try. So, how about it.

Lalwendë · 03-14-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

I just can't believe, there is someone in a net-community, who talks about Strepsils!!! This is so weird! That's something my childhood consisted of...

(with Vitalis and Vitol!)... and of course, Aspirin.

Well, I've already mentioned things like Marmite and custard at length...Strepsils are just yet another odd thing etched on my brain. I've yet to bring Jam Roll, Vimto or Ribena into a thread but I'm sure there'll be the opportunity...

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Originally Posted by Kath

I'd love to be part of it, but can a girl play a male role? Else since Tig's taken Eowyn I've only Arwen left really!

I don't see why not. It's more about how the role is delivered than if your voice sounds 'gruff' or not. And in any case, Hobbits, Elves and Orcs don't have to have deep voices, though Ents may sound odd.

The only other substantial female role left would be Shelob, which I must admit would be a laugh to take on! So would 'sound effects', though recreating the shriek of a Fell Beast would take more than five packets of Strepsils....

Tigerlily Gamgee · 03-14-2006, 08:42 PM

What about Rosie... and Goldberry (does Goldberry have lines, I don't recall?)

Farael · 03-15-2006, 01:01 AM

Ugh, this is terribly frustrating. I had been working on a post for about twenty minutes and I lost it.

Anyway, here we go again:

I had volunteered to be the director on the other thread that dealt with this same topic. Now, before I go on it should be noted that I was asked not to plan for a possible audio-book on the 'downs forum due to legal concerns.

On that same note, it appears (and following the "understanding" of SaucepanLawyer who is NOT an expert on this topic) that as long as the project is not for either money nor to be reproduced in public, we should be safe from copyright infringement issues. Ultimately what it means is that should we go forward with it, there will be no fame and money. Just the satisfaction of doing a fun job as well as having a copy of however the finished version of the audio-book looks like. For some reason, I don't think that the previous statement will discourage any of you

Now, given that we can't really plot for it on this forum, I will open a new e-mail account and free forum tomorrow to handle all the work that may be necessary, but I will bend the rules a little bit and pray the mods look kindly upon me... as I will tell you what I have thought so far. It's not much as I haven't sat down to organize my thoughts, but you'd be amazed at how creative one can get while waiting for a chemical reaction to happen.

On the story itself
LoTR is long. It'd be insane to try to tackle it all at once, so I would suggest the following. We start by doing the first few chapters of FoTR (hey, you've got to start somewhere eh?). Rather than dividing it on chapters, though, I thought of making bigger divisions based on the main characters present. A (very) tentative attempt at doing so, would be the following
1-Introduction (Narrator(s) telling the information that's given on the introduction of the book)
2-The Shire to Buckland (We have lots of hobbits and a little bit of Gandalf included) *from now on, Narrator(s) is(are) a given.
3- Buckland to Bree (We'd have some hobbits and a black rider or two. Let's not forget Tom Bombadil or Goldberry!! and yes, I think Goldberry has a few lines.)
4-Bree to Rivendel (Here we have more hobbits, Aragorn and even the Witch King!! but he has no lines other than ugly screams)
5-The Council of Rivendel (This should be a fun one and I might suggest to be among the first we try to do. Lots of characters, many different races... yes, it should be fun)

Now, here we are faced with two distinct options. We could have one voice actor per character all along, but it would take a big compromise from the main characters. We could also have different voice actors, each of them being responsible of only one of the big sections. On one hand it'd make the work faster and the work load lighter, but it might turn out to be a little incongruent at the end. Not only because of the different voice tones, but also the different ways of expressing emotions through our speech we all have. I rather do things the long and hard way, but of course it's up to what most people will want.

Finally, I thought of a few important 'positions' that need to be filled before we can start planning things throughly. They are in no special order, as they are all just as important

*Webmaster: I have no idea how to make a forum look nice. I will just grab any forum that works and is free to begin with, but if we are going to pretend this project is somewhat serious, we'd need to look somewhat serious as well!!!

*Co-directors: If we go ahead and start recording, and most importantly if we are recording a couple of sections at the same time, things may get a little complicated to handle all by myself. I will need some help making sure the project moves forward

*Commited voice actors: While it would be awesome to have a few dozen well motivated, commited volunteers to enact all the characters whether minor or not, it is likely that a few volunteers will do most of the work. We need some people that I know I can count on for the long haul. (Note: "the long haul" does not necessarily mean the whole of LoTR but at least, a couple of chapters... after all, every chapter may take quite a bit until it's done)

*Nogrod and anyone else who wants to help with the mixing. I took the liberty of addding Nogrod's name already as I think I can count on him... my friend, it seems we are destined to work together!! But the mixing of the different bits and pieces of sound will be a lot of work. I will definetly do a part of it, I hope Nogrod will too but we may need more people.

Having said that, any kind of help will be appreciated, whether it is on the planning, the "acting" or the mixing. Or even if it's just to hang out and offer ideas, everyone is welcome! It may look like a daunting, long task to accomplish but the truth is that I think it will be fun... and of course, me talking about doing FoTR and whatnot may sound a little extreme but... keep in mind I'm always planning ahead. Honestly, I'd be happy if we recorded a chapter or two and then decided that it might not work for whatever reason.

Not that I'm planning on it not working

Anyway, I hope the Barrow Mods forgive me for falling on temptation and doing a little planning on the 'downs. I promise that no more will be heard about it from my part, besides the notice with my new e-mail and possibly the forum adress.

That's all for now, I hope I managed to catch your interest! And remember, even though I volunteered to be director, it does not mean things have to be done my way... It's just my first attempt at organizing a lot of crazy thoughts and ideas.

Matias (Farael)

Farael · 03-15-2006, 05:33 PM

On second thought, I'll use an old e-mail address that still works... you can find me at

maw1603@gmail.com

drop me a line if you think I can interest you in joining in.... and don't worry, I won't add you to any 'lists' or anything, so if you change your mind later on I won't bug you no longer =)

Looking forward to hearing from you all.

Nogrod · 03-16-2006, 02:13 PM

Well Farael my friend. You are really flying with this one...

Great!

But still, I would advice, that we think about the organizing of this one first (as you seem to do, quite well, indeed), and then make a small - and I mean small (5 pages, or so) - part of the story to see how it works. Lots of dialogue, some narration...

The actual trying will show us many shortcomings in our planning, and help us build a better infrastructure to it. To see in which formats we actually can be handling the stuff etc.

Happy to be of help, if I can!

Nogrod · 03-16-2006, 02:23 PM

And one more thing worth thinking about.

How about a "voice test"? Not so much a voice test to the actors (everyones' in I think), but to us who would try to mix them - and for all the actors to give their say on?

So everyone just recording a line or two, with possibly two characters etc. Then Farael and me mixing them, and we all listening to them?

(I just thought about these female elves: add the bass-levels, decrease the middle a lot and carefully adding the highest frequencys - some gentle echo, and voilá! - or then not... should be tested)

03-14-2006, 04:28 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	But being more serious Morsul, why don't we try a small part first? Let's pick a scene, get people involved and make some dealings with the roles - just to try it out. Then everyone just make their parts and mail it to the one to do the "cutting" (in this case "getting together" could be a better word), and see what comes out... A couple of pages to start with and see (hear!), how it goes? And I will admit now, I have a music-making software on my computer. So if no-one else is ready to give it a try, I might. I can adjust the voices (add basses or high pitches, add effects etc.) and so on. At least for a trial version - just to see, if it works. I'd be happy to give that role to someone more inspired - and having more time with this kind of an errand. But we could start with my machine, with a trial. I think, there will be many problems to be solved before we get anything good enough to share with our BD -friends... So you, Morsul, pick the scene, with quite some characters in it, all the people intrested make their parts, sending them to me, and then I combine them to a story that could be shared between us to begin with. Then we see, if that should be continued... EDIT: PS: The name of this thread probably won't attract the best possible actors... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 03-14-2006 at 04:32 PM.

03-14-2006, 04:31 PM	#3
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	I'd love to be part of it, but can a girl play a male role? Else since Tig's taken Eowyn I've only Arwen left really! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

03-14-2006, 04:36 PM	#5
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Don't worry about that, Kath. I'll happily let you have Legolas... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-14-2006, 08:42 PM	#10
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	What about Rosie... and Goldberry (does Goldberry have lines, I don't recall?) __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

03-15-2006, 01:01 AM	#11
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Ugh, this is terribly frustrating. I had been working on a post for about twenty minutes and I lost it. Anyway, here we go again: I had volunteered to be the director on the other thread that dealt with this same topic. Now, before I go on it should be noted that I was asked not to plan for a possible audio-book on the 'downs forum due to legal concerns. On that same note, it appears (and following the "understanding" of SaucepanLawyer who is NOT an expert on this topic) that as long as the project is not for either money nor to be reproduced in public, we should be safe from copyright infringement issues. Ultimately what it means is that should we go forward with it, there will be no fame and money. Just the satisfaction of doing a fun job as well as having a copy of however the finished version of the audio-book looks like. For some reason, I don't think that the previous statement will discourage any of you Now, given that we can't really plot for it on this forum, I will open a new e-mail account and free forum tomorrow to handle all the work that may be necessary, but I will bend the rules a little bit and pray the mods look kindly upon me... as I will tell you what I have thought so far. It's not much as I haven't sat down to organize my thoughts, but you'd be amazed at how creative one can get while waiting for a chemical reaction to happen. On the story itself LoTR is long. It'd be insane to try to tackle it all at once, so I would suggest the following. We start by doing the first few chapters of FoTR (hey, you've got to start somewhere eh?). Rather than dividing it on chapters, though, I thought of making bigger divisions based on the main characters present. A (very) tentative attempt at doing so, would be the following 1-Introduction (Narrator(s) telling the information that's given on the introduction of the book) 2-The Shire to Buckland (We have lots of hobbits and a little bit of Gandalf included) from now on, Narrator(s) is(are) a given. 3- Buckland to Bree (We'd have some hobbits and a black rider or two. Let's not forget Tom Bombadil or Goldberry!! and yes, I think Goldberry has a few lines.) 4-Bree to Rivendel (Here we have more hobbits, Aragorn and even the Witch King!! but he has no lines other than ugly screams) 5-The Council of Rivendel (This should be a fun one and I might suggest to be among the first we try to do. Lots of characters, many different races... yes, it should be fun) Now, here we are faced with two distinct options. We could have one voice actor per character all along, but it would take a big compromise from the main characters. We could also have different voice actors, each of them being responsible of only one of the big sections. On one hand it'd make the work faster and the work load lighter, but it might turn out to be a little incongruent at the end. Not only because of the different voice tones, but also the different ways of expressing emotions through our speech we all have. I rather do things the long and hard way, but of course it's up to what most people will want. Finally, I thought of a few important 'positions' that need to be filled before we can start planning things throughly. They are in no special order, as they are all just as important Webmaster: I have no idea how to make a forum look nice. I will just grab any forum that works and is free to begin with, but if we are going to pretend this project is somewhat serious, we'd need to look somewhat serious as well!!! Co-directors: If we go ahead and start recording, and most importantly if we are recording a couple of sections at the same time, things may get a little complicated to handle all by myself. I will need some help making sure the project moves forward Commited voice actors: While it would be awesome to have a few dozen well motivated, commited volunteers to enact all the characters whether minor or not, it is likely that a few volunteers will do most of the work. We need some people that I know I can count on for the long haul. (Note: "the long haul" does not necessarily mean the whole of LoTR but at least, a couple of chapters... after all, every chapter may take quite a bit until it's done) Nogrod and anyone else who wants to help with the mixing. I took the liberty of addding Nogrod's name already as I think I can count on him... my friend, it seems we are destined to work together!! But the mixing of the different bits and pieces of sound will be a lot of work. I will definetly do a part of it, I hope Nogrod will too but we may need more people. Having said that, any kind of help will be appreciated, whether it is on the planning, the "acting" or the mixing. Or even if it's just to hang out and offer ideas, everyone is welcome! It may look like a daunting, long task to accomplish but the truth is that I think it will be fun... and of course, me talking about doing FoTR and whatnot may sound a little extreme but... keep in mind I'm always planning ahead. Honestly, I'd be happy if we recorded a chapter or two and then decided that it might not work for whatever reason. Not that I'm planning on it not working Anyway, I hope the Barrow Mods forgive me for falling on temptation and doing a little planning on the 'downs. I promise that no more will be heard about it from my part, besides the notice with my new e-mail and possibly the forum adress. That's all for now, I hope I managed to catch your interest! And remember, even though I volunteered to be director, it does not mean things have to be done my way... It's just my first attempt at organizing a lot of crazy thoughts and ideas. Matias (Farael) __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes* this morning.

03-15-2006, 05:33 PM	#12
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	On second thought, I'll use an old e-mail address that still works... you can find me at maw1603@gmail.com drop me a line if you think I can interest you in joining in.... and don't worry, I won't add you to any 'lists' or anything, so if you change your mind later on I won't bug you no longer =) Looking forward to hearing from you all. __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

03-16-2006, 02:13 PM	#13
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Well Farael my friend. You are really flying with this one... Great! But still, I would advice, that we think about the organizing of this one first (as you seem to do, quite well, indeed), and then make a small - and I mean small (5 pages, or so) - part of the story to see how it works. Lots of dialogue, some narration... The actual trying will show us many shortcomings in our planning, and help us build a better infrastructure to it. To see in which formats we actually can be handling the stuff etc. Happy to be of help, if I can! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

03-16-2006, 02:23 PM	#14
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	And one more thing worth thinking about. How about a "voice test"? Not so much a voice test to the actors (everyones' in I think), but to us who would try to mix them - and for all the actors to give their say on? So everyone just recording a line or two, with possibly two characters etc. Then Farael and me mixing them, and we all listening to them? (I just thought about these female elves: add the bass-levels, decrease the middle a lot and carefully adding the highest frequencys - some gentle echo, and voilá! - or then not... should be tested) __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

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