Survivor: The Second Age

[Formendacil]

The Twelth day of voting was deeply troubled by arguments amongst the voting spectators. Many disappeared in the disturbance. All Arda Envinyanta seemed stirred by the accusations of corruption. In the end, after a comprehensive vote-counting, the voting fell as follows:

Celeborn: II

Elendil: III

Fangorn (Treebeard): IIII

EDIT:

Okay, here's the reason why I shouldn't be trusted, if any reason exists...

I just switched up the positions of Elendil and Fangorn...

I even had them counted right, too.

So, the true tally is:

Celeborn: II

Fangorn: III

Elendil: IIII

Meaning that this is nonsense:

NOT EDIT: Perhaps it was a subtle revenge at the often wordy Moderator that Treebeard was evicted, perhaps it was simply a strike at Eomer of the Rohirrim. Whatever the case, Fangorn of Fangorn was out of the game.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Noldor:
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor

Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Celebrían

Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Anárion
Ohtar

Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn
Fimbrethil

Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king

Day 13 may now begin. I'd like to hope that my voting-analysis will clear things up a little, and that Day 13 will see a few more votes for characters (and really, having seen what you need to do, is it all THAT hard?) than today. 'Tis is truly ignominious way for Elendil to go, with four votes out of nine...

P.S. Thanks to the Phantom for pointing out my counting error.

[Diamond18]

I will give things another try, since I am already having plus plus withdrawals. Provided you continue to give reasons for any future disqualifications I think that gives me at least something to measure off of. Of course, once the werewolf game finally starts I may be gone anyway, screaming "Don't kill me!" hysterically and unable to concentrate on anything else.

Anyway, on to it. If I haven't rambled too long, I may just be getting in the first vote of the day.

In my mind, and this may sound strange but it is true, the most damning thing Elendil ever did was name his sword Narsil. Of course, technically Tolkien only says, "...and it was named Narsil" but we can safely assume that Elendil, being the first owner of said sword, would have been the one to christen it. Narsil is, forgive me, the most butt-ugly name in all of Tolkiendom. It sounds like the bastard love child of an air freshener and a hair removal product. Thank goodness Aragorn had the sense to rename it. Wouldn't you rather weild Andúril? I know you would.

I'll get you, my pretty,

+ + Elendil,

and your little sword too!

[Diamond18]

Celeborn: II

Fangorn: III

Treebeard: IIII

Well, now I'm just confused....

[the phantom]

Well, now I'm just confused....

Heh.

I think we should just assume that Elendil is dead, because the post in which Lord Formendacil counts everyone's votes shows Elendil with the most counted votes.

Unless there was an error in that post.

[Diamond18]

So I voted for a dead guy? I've spoken ill of the dead? I've stomped all over Elendil's grave, adding insult to mortal injury? I am SO bad.

[Formendacil]

Good grief!

I am far too tired to be up at this late hour... look at the silly mistakes I've been making.

I'll fix it...

[The Saucepan Man]

OK, I have decided to continue playing, primarily for three reasons.

First, the basis upon which votes are to be counted and discounted is now abundantly clear.

Secondly, I cannot resist a bit of flattery.

And thirdly, while I still have misgivings over the events leading to the evictions of Khamul and Oropher, Formendacil has put a lot of work into this game and has, on the whole, been doing an excellent job.

I would add that I do not necessarily oppose the Mod being partial. As you say, Anguirel was incredibly biased in his game, but he was so obvious and elegant in his partiality that it was rather charming. My main gripe was that we knew not where we stood, since the basis upon which votes were to be counted or discounted was entirely unclear and it seemed wrong to me to take advantage of that to promote a previously undisclosed partiality. However, that has now been rectified as we now know where we stand, and I thank you for that, Formendacil. I actually think that you should, going forward, discount reasoning that relies (without more) entirely on the reasoning of others, as it makes it too easy to put in a vote in support of someone. But you should, of course, give notice if you intend to follow that course.

I should perhaps make it clear that, my return notwithstanding, the Alliance of Ultra-DOOM as an entity is no longer participating in this game. It may return one day. But, for now, my participation in this game is as an independent. I am willing to cut deals with other players, but will remain, in general, unaffiliated.

And I make no bones about the fact that I dedicate myself, in the first instance, to the eviction of Elrond. I may vote elsewhere if I can see any benefit in doing so but, for the most part, my vote is likely to be for Elrond each Day until (hopefully) he is evicted.

And so, without further ado:

+ + ELROND

My reasoning.

First, he should, by rights, already have gone.

Secondly, he has already had a number of tries at winning a Survivor contest and failed on each occasion. His desperation to win is rather unappealing and faintly sad in one who should be dignified.

Thirdly, he is a cissy.

Of course, none of those reasons will count.

And so, fourthly:

It seems entirely inappropriate to me, in the midst of the turmoil of the Second Age, for one who should have been contributing so much more to the struggle to absent himself from it for large periods in order to establish what was, effectively, a Middle-earth hippy commune. All that telling tales round the fireplace, singing “Tra-la-la-lally, down here in the valley” and communing with nature is all very well, and charming in its place, but not when the forces of Sauron are encamped on one’s doorstep.

It might be said that establishing a stronghold and defending it with great power provided a valuable refuge for Elves in such a time of trouble. But that, surely, is not the true Noldorin way. Any Noldor worth his salt should be looking for any opportunity to engage the enemy and be willing to nobly sacrifice himself and his people in a vain but glorious effort to make his mark. Did Elrond not learn from the First Age that hiding away in a secret refuge very rarely comes to any good and, at the very least, does irreparable harm to one’s reputation? Just ask yourself. Which First Age Noldorian gained the greatest notoriety. Feanor or Turgon? Elrond was the Turgon of his Age.

To his credit, Elrond did march with Gil-Galad in the War of the Last Alliance, but Gil-Galad was clearly so unimpressed with his battle skills, after all that arty, tree-hugging Imladris stuff, that he relegated him to the role of a mere standard bearer. “You just carry that pretty little flag, Elrond, and keep yourself out of any trouble,” he no doubt said.

And Elrond even bungled the one serious job which fell to him in the entire endeavour, that of persuading Isildur to destroy the Ring. Had he been able to accomplish just that one, simple task, a lot of fuss and bother would have been avoided.

I implore you, my fellow players, free this game from the stranglehold of the phantom’s machinations and let justice be done. Evict Elrond today.

Oh, and if you do decide to vote for him, don't forget to give sound Tolkien-based reasons.

[Formendacil]

The Thirteenth day of voting fell as follows:

Tar-Míriel: I

Elrond: IIIII II

Fimbrethil: IIIII III

On this day, the tribes were reshuffled.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Line of Lúthien:
Elrond Peredhil
Amandil
Anárion
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the "Endorians":
Celeborn
Círdan
Celebrían
Narvi
Fangorn

Tribe of the Rest:

Sauron
The Witch-king
Celebrimbor
Ohtar
Galadriel

Day 14 begins now. Vote away!

[Lalaith]

So, there were not enough among us with the imagination and compassion to pity the marital plight of Fimbrethil. Oh well....

I've been pondering the Elrond question, specifically my point from yesterday:

someone else can take over the room bookings and the ring and so on if he goes.

Now, who would that someone be? Why Mrs Elrond, Celebrian, of course...and, if she's too busy running Rivendell single-handed, she won't go gallivanting off in Orc territory, and so she'll never get captured and tormented...and even if they tried, she'd have the ring as (possible) protection...

Rewrite history! Save Celebrian! Vote Elrond! He would want it this way, honest...

++ELROND

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

++Sauron, who had the gall to call himself 'Lord of the Rings'

First Age: Given control of an island, lost it to an elf and her lover. Ran away. [Not counted, perhaps, but I just wanted to point that out.]

Second Age: Put on disguise (ineffective, since he was shunned by some), sold patent rights to tacky rings in an effort to control the minds of the dominant race. Must be the most pathetic world-domination scheme in the history of evil (no offence to Tolkien for writing it that way.)

Oh, and you want a secret? He stole the whole ring idea from my father.

[Boromir88]

Nilp actually everyone in the Tribe of the Rest (who chose the name ) should stay as of right now. Look at the ratings they are bringing in. I mean Sauron vs. Galadriel! Ohtar the carrier of Narsil! The Witch-King and Celebrimbor! This tribe is going to collapse in it's ownself, no one needs to vote them off, they'll all kill eachother. And think of the ratings! (Now I sound like Sauce).

My victim will probably be someone from the other tribes. And unless phantom or any of his other team can persuade me back over, it'll be Elrond.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

+ + Narvi

Let's see, these two brilliant individuals (elf
and dwarf) get together to make and label
a crucial entrance to the greatest dwarf
dwelling in Middle-earth, one that's also a
source of mithril, and they stick a sign on it
with the uncrackable code of needing to say
"Friend" to come in!
Obviously this door also
had mystical properties dumbing down anyone who
came up to it. And it's Narvi who's elected
for ouster, not Celebrimbor, since he okayed
this inscrutable password and it's his people's
place.

[Lhunardawen]

How many ages does it have to take before you realize that

++CELEBORN

deserves to be voted off? We can give more credit to the White Tree that bears the name than to the Elf. And I'm quite sure Moderadacil is referring to the Elf here. At least Celeborn the Tree was a meaningful symbol of something, while Celeborn the Elf isn't even the first person you'll associate with Lothlorien!

[Anguirel]

We'll never, never realise that Celeborn deserves to be voted off, because he doesn't.

He isn't the first name you associate with Lothlorien, because he's modest, not because he's incapable.

I'm glad to see someone is finally seeing sense. Down with the blot on this show, the complacent Lord who thinks he can waltz his way to power with the aid of tacky bling.

A chance has occurred to prove that Maia or no Maia, Dark Lord or Lidless Eye, Sauron is just an exploiting, made-up vagabond with nary a spot of ability to his name. Forward the Witch King of Angmar!

++SAURON

[Boromir88]

A chance has occurred to prove that Maia or no Maia, Dark Lord or Lidless Eye, Sauron is just an exploiting, made-up vagabond with nary a spot of ability to his name. Forward the Witch King of Angmar!

++SAURON

You withdraw from attacking Sauron and I won't go after the Witch-King. Does that sound good? Now I don't plan on wanting the WK rid of (just yet) but that doesn't mean I can't suddenly I don't know...change my mind.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

++Sauron, who had the gall to call himself 'Lord of the Rings'

First Age: Given control of an island, lost it to an elf and her lover. Ran away.

Second Age: Put on disguise (ineffective, since he was shunned by some), sold patent rights to tacky rings in an effort to control the minds of the dominant race. Must be the most pathetic world-domination scheme in the history of evil (no offence to Tolkien for writing it that way.)

Oh, and you want a secret? He stole the whole ring idea from my father. (++Nilpaurion Felagund (who is not a legitimate candidate))

Yeah, what he says.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

+ + Fangorn

Rumor has it he's really Old Man Willow in
disguise, cleverly biding his time to ingratiate
himself with hobbits before leading them all
in a Pied Piper march to the Old Forest.

[Boromir88]

I say we kick someone out of the Endorians, that has to be the most boring, unattractive, unsuspenseful group of people I ever see. I mean if it wasn't for the "Tribe of the Rest" people would be falling a sleep just by listening to Fangorn talk.

[Formendacil]

The Fourteenth day of voting was a contest, primarily, between Elrond and Sauron, but in the end, there was no contest. The voting fell as follows:

Círdan: I
Narvi: I
Celeborn: I

Sauron: II

Elrond: IIIII IIII

Now, participants will note that, toDay, I have not required Tolkien rationale- due to the late hour on which this day is ending for me. However, I'm quite proud of you all, since only Glirdy (naughty exmod!) and Eonwe's vote didn't have a legitimate rationale- and the result would have been the same anyway.

There shall probably not be a vote analysis after tomorrow's vote either, since I work until about this same time, but I plan to have proper analyses on the days following.

Also, to those saying that only Second Age material is admissible: wrong.

I'll accept anything Tolkien, no matter what the Age. The Second Age was just criteria for me picking the candidates. You can vote them off for anything Tolkien.

Participants in all three Survivors, Sauron and Elrond's tussle for surival ended in a Sauronian win.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Line of Lúthien:
Amandil
Anárion
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the "Endorians":
Celeborn
Círdan
Celebrían
Narvi
Fangorn

Tribe of the Rest:

Sauron
The Witch-king
Celebrimbor
Ohtar
Galadriel

Day 15 begins now. Vote away!

[Formendacil]

Erm...

In quoting yesterday's day-ending post for the one just created, I inadvertanly edited it instead. I'll go back and fix it as best I can, but be warned that it may be rather inaccurate.

[Formendacil]

The Fifteenth day of voting was about Sauron. And, as with all battles surrounding Sauron, he either won or lost dramatically. The voting fell as follows:

Elros: III

Sauron: IIIII IIII

Now, HOUSEKEEPING:

Due to various facts, such that it is 1:00 am in my timezone, I have to get up early tomorrow, I need a shower before bed, and that I've just received word of a death in "the family", I do not have time to do a proper analysis of the votes tonight. Therefore, all votes have been counted. Of course, with the way things fell, I think Sauron would have been booted anyway. To all of you including Tolkien rationale, my serious thanks! Tomorrow will be back to business-as-Tolkien-usual, with the analysis of the votes. It will also be a rather long day, as rather than stay up until 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning, I'll let it drag on until I get up and online Saturday.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Line of Lúthien:
Amandil
Anárion
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the "Endorians":
Celeborn
Círdan
Celebrían
Narvi
Fangorn

Tribe of the Rest:
The Witch-king
Celebrimbor
Ohtar
Galadriel

Day 16 begins now. Vote away!

[Diamond18]

Now that Sauron is gone I can reveal my true motive for voting for him -- I want to be the only creature of pure evil inhabiting this thread, and he was my competition! Ha ha ha! I am not Diamond18, I am THE WITCH KING!

Okay, clearly what I am is sleep deprived and delirious.

I may retract this later, depending on whichever way my mood is violently swinging, but I'd like to start off today with a vote for:

+ + Fangorn

A: Because I want revenge for the ousting of Fimbrethil, and all the "ooh poor lovelorn Treebeard, left by a coldhearted woman" arguments that did said ousting.

B: Because he never really did anything interesting, besides destroying Isengard. Which was, okay, pretty cool, but it was one thing done in a vastly long lifetime. Most of the time he just stood around harooming and writing imitations of Elven poetry.

[Lhunardawen]

++CELEBRIAN

for being such a neglectful wife and mother! She's really just like that Fimbrethil, actually, only that she had these Orc-inflicted wounds for an excuse. Valid perhaps, but that's not the point!

Besides, Elrond needs someone to console him.

[The Saucepan Man]

Well, one of the "Endorians" needs to go to maintain the balance of the show.

Which leads me to direct my gaze on Celeborn once more.

Now, the hen-pecked husband thing does elicit some sympathy from me for him. But, really, he was supposed to be the wisest Elf in Middle-earth during the Third Age. If that was the case, then surely he could have stood up for himself a bit better.

And what did he actually achieve?

In the Second and Third Ages, he ruled over Lothlorien with Galadriel. He is said to be Lord of that realm. Yet it is clear who wore the trousers in that relationship. It was primarily Galadriel's power, and the power of her Ring, which maintained Lorien's defences. And it was she who, in reality, ruled there.

He is said to have been the wisest of all Elves. Yet, even a cursory glance at the Lothlorien chapters of LotR will reveal that Galadriel was by far the wiser of the two.

He is said to have been the greatest giver of gifts. Yet it was Galadriel who bestowed the most useful gifts on the Fellowship.

He commanded the army that conquered Dol Guldur. Yet it was Galadriel who destroyed its walls, thus rendering its defences ineffective.

Let's face it, Celeborn would have been nothing without Galadriel. And all that he did achieve relied heavily on her. As they are now in different tribes, this is becoming painfully and embarassingly apparent on the show. For trying to gain fame, notoriety and power through his wife's endeavours and not through his own efforts, I vote:

+ + CELEBORN

[Formendacil]

The sixteenth day of voting was not as noisy as some previously, suffering from "the Weekend Syndrome". The voting fell as follows:

Celebrían: I
Galadriel: I

Fangorn: II
Celeborn: II

Amandil: III

Had Lhuna stuck to her guns, and voted Celeborn, he'd have been gone in a double-lynching. However, she didn't, and we also didn't have an army of anti-Celeborn 'Downers ride in on Pink Oliphaunts, so he survives another day. 'Tis Amandil who must "sail west".

HOUSEKEEPING:

This next day should be very close to 24 hours in duration. If that isn't possible, I'll let it change on the longer side.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Line of Lúthien:
Anárion
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the "Endorians":
Celeborn
Círdan
Celebrían
Narvi
Fangorn

Tribe of the Rest:
The Witch-king
Celebrimbor
Ohtar
Galadriel

Day 17 begins now. Vote away!

[Celuien]

++OHTAR

Of the Lord of the Rings Code:

Obviously, by naming this character Ohtar, Tolkien was trying to tell us that Ohtar's role could be filled by any other character. This is clearly demonstrated by the fact that substituing an 'e' for the 'a' in his name and reversing the h with the t changes Ohtar to Other. The e to a substitution is the correct interpretation since the 'a' is the second vowel in Othar and e is the second vowel in the alphabet.

If that doesn't convince you, consider the anagram, Ho! Rat! formed by his name. Do we want a skulking rat to win Survivor?

And finally, lest my vote be discounted, I'll repeat my earlier reasoning that Othar is not a significant enough character to win Survivor.

[Elu Ancalime]

++Ohtar
As a recall from Unfinished Tales, Ohtar is afraid of being cowardly. I think that speaks for itself, right?
________
Silversurfer vaporizer

[Formendacil]

The seveneenth day of voting was dead- really dead. And not just in the sense that it purports to take place in Arda Envinyanta (Arda Remade) or in the sense that it takes place on the 'Downs. No, it was just... dead. The voting, such as it was, fell as follows:

Celebrían: I

Celeborn: II

Ohtar: IIII

Little known and hiding behind an assumed alias, it was only a matter of time before Ohtar was outed. 'twas only fitting, perhaps, that such a little known man fell by so few votes.

HOUSEKEEPING:

This next day should be very close to 24 hours in duration. If that isn't possible, I'll let it change on the longer side.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Line of Lúthien:
Anárion
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the "Endorians":
Celeborn
Círdan
Celebrían
Narvi
Fangorn

Tribe of the Rest:
The Witch-king
Celebrimbor
Galadriel

Day 18 begins now. Vote away!

[Anguirel]

++ELROS TAR-MINYATUR

It's been proven by popular consent he's the brother of a cissy. So he's probably a cissy himself. Which would explain why he never did anything interesting, like fighting wars or worshipping Melkor...

[Formendacil]

If the voters thought to prolong the proceedings by avoiding the vote on Day Eighteen, they were wrong. With relentless, inexorable force, the Moderator prepared for another day's eviction. The voting, such as it was, fell as follows:

Treebeard: I
Elros Tar-Minyatur: I

Círdan: II

Like the gentleman he was, Círdan departed from the game without a fuss...

HOUSEKEEPING:

In case no one's noticed, I didn't analyse the votes publicly. All of them were valid, in any case.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Line of Lúthien:
Anárion
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the "Endorians":
Celeborn
Celebrían
Narvi
Fangorn

Tribe of the Rest:
The Witch-king
Celebrimbor
Galadriel

...who are now being shuffled into two remaining tribes:

Tribe of Those Born Immortal:
Celeborn
Galadriel
Celebrían
Celebrimbor
Fangorn

Tribe of Those Born Mortal:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel
Anárion
The Witch-king
Narvi

Day 19 begins now. Vote away!