Survivor: The Second Age

[Formendacil]

The Seventh day of voting, despite an originally wide range of candidates, ended up coming down to a contest between two candidates: the Isildur the High King, and his loyal squire, Ohtar (or, should I say, his loyal Ohtar?). Only the kinsmen of the Moderator (if Lhuna is my sister, and Nilp is her brother, and Eomer is brother or cousin, then they're all my kinsmen, right?) remained aloof from the Isildur/Ohtar debate. The final distribution of votes is as follows:

Celeborn: I

Erendis: II

Ohtar: IIIII II

Isildur: IIIII IIII

Despite heavy defence from the Cavaliers, Isildur could not muster enough support to defeat Ohtar, and so went the way of Charles I, and was removed from the Survivor Game.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Noldor:
Ereinion Gil-galad,
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor

Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Celebrían

Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Erendis
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Anárion
Ohtar

Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil

Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl

Day 8 is ready to go. The voting may now begin.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

+ + Amandil
He's gotten a good press, but consider, he was
Ar-Pharazon's buddy until the king decided he
liked Sauron better. Then Amandil sulked (because
he was no longer the numero uno counsellor? Hmm?)

In his youth Amandil was a great friend of Ar-Pharazon, the last king of Nùmenor. Amandil was also famed across Nùmenor for being a great sea-captain in the days of Nùmendil. However when Ar-Pharazon brought the conquered Sauron from Middle-earth, his friendship with Amandil withered.

.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amandil

[Formendacil]

The Eighth day of voting, like the Seventh before it, came down to a contest between two candidates: Gil-galad the High King, and the Black Easterling, Khamûl. But once again, the regicidal tendencies of the populace showed through, and despite numerous misspellings of both candidates' names (sorry, Nilp), the voting was as follows:

Elendil: I
Erendis: I

Celeborn: II

Khamûl: IIIII

Gil-galad: IIIII I

To the woe of Lhunardawen, Ereinion Gil-galad was voted off the game, his chances of winning erased.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Noldor:
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor

Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Celebrían

Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Erendis
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Anárion
Ohtar

Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil

Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king
Khamûl

Day 9 is ready to go. The voting can start immediately. The tribes of the Sindar and the Elendili lead the race in remaining candidates.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Oooh! Here's my chance!

++ERENDIS

Get bandwagoning!

[JennyHallu]

++Khamul, for not having humps.

[Anguirel]

Sensible lass.

++KHAMUL, THE, HO HO, THIS JOKE WILL NEVER DIE, CAMEL

I shall have terrible, bloody vengeance for the motiveless destruction that just occurred...

[Kuruharan]

Oooh! Here's my chance!

++ERENDIS

Get bandwagoning!

Statement: My word, you are a man of little variety.

Query: Doesn't this get boring?

[the phantom]

Formendacil- by my count Gil-galad only received five votes.

Diamond18 voted for "Gild-galad".

The tribes of the Sindar and the Elendili lead the race in remaining candidates.

Quite right! We should, for the sake of balance, put forward candidates from those two groups.

My two picks would be Ohtar and Oropher.

[Celuien]

Apologies for missing the Khamul appeal earlier, Ang! Celeborn was safe, at least. Though I miss Gil-Galad already.

++KHAMUL THE CAMEL

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by JennyHallu

++Khamul, for not having humps.

I'd rather evict him if he had humps.

Let me get this straight, you guys vote for Khamûl because when it's pronounced wrong, his name somewhat resembles the word camel. Well, that's just clever. I mean really, it must be the best reason I've ever heard.

Originally Posted by Lhuna

Yeah, like he said.

Now, how did it go again? 'Don't hate the game, hate the player', or something like that. I'm sorry for your loss, but it's hardly Khamûl's fault that Gil-Galad got voted off yesterday. You Khamûl voters could have saved the Elf King by voting for Celeborn then. Like this:

++Celeborn


Lhuna, yesterday you said:

"I'll willingly detract my vote for Khamûl if you help me get rid of Celeborn"

Well, wouldn't this be a good chance to get rid of him?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ah Kuruharan, since you and your faction cannot buy me you mock me with snide words. Such a childish strategy will do you no good.

[Anguirel]

Lhuna, listen not to the spawn.

Gil-Galad's fall was engineered by the supporters of Khamul. They must suffer as a result.

Besides, attacking Celeborn is an orthodox and boring to do.

You'll see the same tired arguments coming out.

"He doesn't do much." To which I say, he's too cool to lower himself by getting involved in the plot.

"He's not as pretty as his wife." And your point is? The Queen isn't as pretty as Rosamund Pike; does that mean we should execute her?

"He's a Sinda and we don't need them around." You are a follower of the phantom. Allow yourself to be convinced that pan-Noldorism is counterproductive.

"He's got a stupid Quenya name." He was given a stupid Quenya name at a time when Tolkien was committing such errors as to declare Galadriel morally unambiguous.

"I'm swayed by Saucie's sequence of pictures." Read it from Celeborn's point of view. A decent host suffering a rather trying marriage.


To all Elf-sympathisers-in the words of Russellus Croweus Maximus Australianus, "the only chance we have of getting out of this place alive is if we stay together."


To all individualists-voting Khamul is a rare opportunity to annoy Saucie and the phantom at the same time...

[JennyHallu]

Yay! Perfect! Vote Khamul!

Let me get this straight, you guys vote for Khamûl because when it's pronounced wrong, his name somewhat resembles the word camel. Well, that's just clever. I mean really, it must be the best reason I've ever heard.

We have backup!

[Formendacil]

The Ninth day of voting was a furious contest in which the rivalry of the day before, of Gil-galad and Khamûl. Gil-galad may have been gone, but his supporters wanted revenge. Furthermore, another Elf was in danger: Celeborn.
For much of the day, it appeared to be a close race, but in the end there was a clear winner. The voting fell as follows:

Erendis: I
Anárion: I

Celeborn: IIIII II

Khamûl: IIIII IIIII II

And so was Lhunardawen avenged for the death of Ereinion, for Khamûl the Black Eastering was removed with the greatest number of votes yet seen for a candidate.

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

On a slightly different issue, it seems to me that there are a number of unreasoned and weakly reasoned votes (on both sides) this day. Are you going to start getting tough on this sort of thing Formy?

Not today... but that could be because I personally prefered Celeborn to remain over Khamûl. For the sake of interest, here's how the voting would have fallen, had I followed my more stringent tendencies:

Erendis: I
Ohtar: I

Khamûl: III

Celeborn: IIII

So, you see, good people, that if- one of these days- I should follow my more stringent side, the outcome could be very different. Very different indeed.

Meanwhile, today I did NOT do that. Tomorrow may be different.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Noldor:
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor

Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Orophir
Celebrían

Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Erendis
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Anárion
Ohtar

Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil

Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king

Day 10 begin now. Vote away! The Elendili and the Sindar continue to have the most remaining candidates. The Baddies are now clearly losing.

[Diamond18]

May I be so bold as to inquire, Form, which of the 4 Celeborn votes would have made the cut under your more stringent tallying? Most importantly, would mine have?

[Anguirel]

++SAURON

He's shown an inability to protect his own minions and to carry out any successful scheming. The Witch-King frequently shows enormous potential and as a Child of Illuvatar would make a far more interesting Dark Lord.

If Sauron goes today I will lay off my persecution of the Witch-King of Angmar.

EDIT: The only way the "reasoned" tally makes sense is if you're discounting all the votes referring to Khamul as a camel...including Mith's piece of sparkling comic genius...

[Formendacil]

The Tenth day of voting was a day of wheeling and dealing. Votes were shifted back and forth, and several candidates appeared as fully possible lynchees. In the end, the voting fell as follows:

Oropher: I
Anárion: I
Celebrimbor: I
Círdan: I

Elrond: II

Amandil: IIIII

Erendis: IIIII I

Eomer of the Wargs let out a great cry of victory at the eviction of his least-favourite candidate, while H.A.G. plotted his assassination...

Originally Posted by A Diamond in the Rough

May I be so bold as to inquire, Form, which of the 4 Celeborn votes would have made the cut under your more stringent tallying? Most importantly, would mine have?

Actually, it's my policy to keep them secret.

The main reason being that, since my "stringent" form of tallying votes has no consistent criteria, I don't want arguments about who's vote is legit and who's isn't.

That was the idea yesterday, anyway. Today I simply cannot recall whose names made it...

Oh, and Spawn, thanks for pointing out the Spelling Error regarding Oropher. Clearly, my thoughts do not dwelling on Sindarin princes...

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Noldor:
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor

Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Oropher
Celebrían

Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Anárion
Ohtar

Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil

Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king

Day 11 may now begin. Vote away! The Elendili and the Sindar continue to have the most remaining candidates. The Baddies, however, are now tied with the Númenoreans for losing.

[mormegil]

++Elrond

Agent Elrond must go. He's not that wise yet, he's not funny, he's has limited personality. He's just not working out and it's time to let you go.

[Anguirel]

++SAURON

Don't you want to see the Witch-King giving Mordor an Angmar-style makeover?

Compare the Witch-King's destruction of Arnor to Sauron's failed invasions of Gondor.

It's clear that as well as having a more interesting character and being a Man, not some intoxicated spirit, the Witch-King has vastly, vastly more Dark Lord potential...

[Formendacil]

The Eleventh day of voting was quieter than its predecessor, possibly due to its falling on the weekend. A clear trend towards anti-Elrond voting seemed to be growing... In the end, the voting fell as follows:

Sauron: I
Narvi: I
Amandil: I
Círdan: I

Oropher: IIIII

Elrond: IIIII I

However, due to a certain Moderator's stated threat of recounting votes so that only those with Tolkien-based reasoning (as judged by his own criteria) were counted, the voting REALLY fell as follows:

Sauron: I
Círdan: I
Narvi: I

Elrond: II

Oropher: III

Oropher is gone. Those wishing for an Elrondian eviction must wait till the morrow.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Noldor:
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor

Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Celebrían

Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Elendil
Anárion
Ohtar

Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn (Treebeard)
Fimbrethil

Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king

Day 12 may now begin. Vote away- but remember that only those votes with Tolkien-related rationale are guaranteed to be counted! The Elendili now hold a clear lead.

[Diamond18]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

However, due to a certain Moderator's stated threat of recounting votes so that only those with Tolkien-based reasoning (as judged by his own criteria) were counted, the voting REALLY fell as follows:

I rather hate to say it, but it appears to me that your criteria is simply based on how you want things to go. By your own admission, you counted all the non-Tolkien-based votes for Khamul just because you wanted to save Celeborn, and you have now taken your "stringent" stance to save Elrond. If you are to be the moderator you ought to give up "personal criteria" in the name of being fair and impartial. Moderators don't dictate the game, they simply observe and tabulate. I don't believe it should be the moderator's role to judge the votes, not secretly, and certainly not when said moderator admits to personal bias. And if you don't say whose votes you counted and whose you did not, that creates even more of an unfair, partial flavor to the whole thing. Because by leaving your "own criteria" un-explained you break the very rule you expect the other players to heed.

For one thing, it takes all the strategy and variants out of the game -- or, should I say, takes the Game out of the game. A strict, Tolkien-logic-only based discussion of character merits belongs in The Books. This is Middle-earth Mirth. If players aren't allowed to play a Survivor-esque game of Middle-earth Survivor, I'm not sure why anyone should bother.

[Kuruharan]

I rather hate to say it, but it appears to me that your criteria is simply based on how you want things to go.

-and-

This is Middle-earth Mirth. If players aren't allowed to play a Survivor-esque game of Middle-earth Survivor, I'm not sure why anyone should bother.

Hear, hear!

And far be it from me to mention somebody's inability to keep a consistent ending time in the context of this discussion...

[Formendacil]

The Twelth day of voting was deeply troubled by arguments amongst the voting spectators. Many disappeared in the disturbance. All Arda Envinyanta seemed stirred by the accusations of corruption. In the end, after a comprehensive vote-counting, the voting fell as follows:

Celeborn: II

Elendil: III

Fangorn (Treebeard): IIII

EDIT:

Okay, here's the reason why I shouldn't be trusted, if any reason exists...

I just switched up the positions of Elendil and Fangorn...

I even had them counted right, too.

So, the true tally is:

Celeborn: II

Fangorn: III

Elendil: IIII

Meaning that this is nonsense:

NOT EDIT: Perhaps it was a subtle revenge at the often wordy Moderator that Treebeard was evicted, perhaps it was simply a strike at Eomer of the Rohirrim. Whatever the case, Fangorn of Fangorn was out of the game.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Noldor:
Elrond Peredhil
Galadriel
Celebrimbor

Tribe of the Sindar:
Celeborn
Círdan
Celebrían

Tribe of the Númenoreans:
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the Elendili:
Amandil
Anárion
Ohtar

Tribe of the Other Speakers:
Narvi
Fangorn
Fimbrethil

Tribe of the Baddies:
Sauron
The Witch-king

Day 13 may now begin. I'd like to hope that my voting-analysis will clear things up a little, and that Day 13 will see a few more votes for characters (and really, having seen what you need to do, is it all THAT hard?) than today. 'Tis is truly ignominious way for Elendil to go, with four votes out of nine...

P.S. Thanks to the Phantom for pointing out my counting error.

[Diamond18]

I will give things another try, since I am already having plus plus withdrawals. Provided you continue to give reasons for any future disqualifications I think that gives me at least something to measure off of. Of course, once the werewolf game finally starts I may be gone anyway, screaming "Don't kill me!" hysterically and unable to concentrate on anything else.

Anyway, on to it. If I haven't rambled too long, I may just be getting in the first vote of the day.

In my mind, and this may sound strange but it is true, the most damning thing Elendil ever did was name his sword Narsil. Of course, technically Tolkien only says, "...and it was named Narsil" but we can safely assume that Elendil, being the first owner of said sword, would have been the one to christen it. Narsil is, forgive me, the most butt-ugly name in all of Tolkiendom. It sounds like the bastard love child of an air freshener and a hair removal product. Thank goodness Aragorn had the sense to rename it. Wouldn't you rather weild Andúril? I know you would.

I'll get you, my pretty,

+ + Elendil,

and your little sword too!

[Formendacil]

The Thirteenth day of voting fell as follows:

Tar-Míriel: I

Elrond: IIIII II

Fimbrethil: IIIII III

On this day, the tribes were reshuffled.

Those remaining:

Tribe of the Line of Lúthien:
Elrond Peredhil
Amandil
Anárion
Elros Tar-Minyatur
Tar-Míriel

Tribe of the "Endorians":
Celeborn
Círdan
Celebrían
Narvi
Fangorn

Tribe of the Rest:

Sauron
The Witch-king
Celebrimbor
Ohtar
Galadriel

Day 14 begins now. Vote away!