WWJ V: The Broken Souls

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Jenny

However, if the seer hasn't dreamed about you

And why would Holby have trusted Ang so much that she gave the anvil hint, if the seers hadn't dreamed about Ang?

I trust Ang, but I don't know if I trust his revelation plan.

(Ah, and I'm filp-floppy again. I'm not particulary good at deciding things.)

[Anguirel]

So, Thinlomien, you're saying you, too, are an Ordinary Villager?

It's no coincidence that only the non-gifteds seem to be in favour of this plan so far. The privileged ones want to keep what they perceive as power...but it's shortsighted, friends, I promise you, it's shortsighted. Please look at the wider picture.

[Thinlómien]

I'm not saying anything before the gifteds reveal themselves, because if they won't do that, the wolf is left with more people to guess about who's a gifted and who's not.

[Thinlómien]

To clear up: I think we shouldn't force them to come out or lie by declaring our ordoness. It's their decision, after all, however wisely or non-wisely they behave. I don't think we're in that bad situation that we should force our gifteds to do anything.

[Nogrod]

As Jenny said it, it's up to the seer to decide.

Without the seer's revelation, there is no sense in anyone running rampant and calling her/his role out. And I wouldn't be so hasty to jump into conclusions about our self-named ordo's being all ordo's. If I would be a gifted, I would say that too in the early hours, when no decisions have been made, and come out only at the later hour, before the voting.

Meanwhile, we should see, what else we will be doing tonight. What if the seer doesn't see thre revelation as useful at all, or as yet? Then we'll have to lynch someone. And it would be much better to have some idea about it, than just wrestle over this revelation stuff, before the seer either comes to the stage, or not...

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Without the seer's revelation, there is no sense in anyone running rampant and calling her/his role out. And I wouldn't be so hasty to jump into conclusions about our self-named ordo's being all ordo's. If I would be a gifted, I would say that too in the early hours, when no decisions have been made, and come out only at the later hour, before the voting.

If I was the seer, I wouldn't say "I'm an ordo" either, I'd just ignore the matter.

I think Jenny was a bit too eager to declare her ordoness, and I'd say the same about Ang if I didn't believe him innocent...

[Anguirel]

Now. I think it may be of some use to summarise the position of all of us on this plan-

Nogrod-The loudest direct opponent of mass-revelation. Went as far as to accuse me in all but name of being a wolf, on very ropey grounds. In my mind Nogrod is an innocent dupe, playing into the wolf's paws. The Seer has probably dreamed of him. It's also likely he's gifted.

Yes, if you haven't noticed, if you won't do the decent thing, I'm prepared to extract you. Yes, this will help the wolf if you don't agree to my advice. Which is rather the idea. "Rock and a hard place", indeed...


Thinlomien-hedging around on the whole issue. Won't say what she is, so the Gifteds can "wisely or unwisely" make up their own minds. But says that if they're going to come clean, they should do so quickly. Still, we've seen her quite capable of schizophrenia before. Could be Gifted or innocent.


Jenny_Hallu-was talked round and is in favour of the plan. Claims to be a villager. She may be so; equally may be the final wolf. She can't be Gifted; that would be counterproductively hypocritical.

A similar situation applies to Eonwe.


Valesse-against the plan. Also not indisposed to accuse me. Probably either Gifted or wolf.


Roa-totally silent today, ominously. Maybe dreamt of by the Seers. Maybe Gifted (which would really be sod's law). Almost definitely not a wolf.


Gil-Galad-totally silent. Hasn't opined on the plan or anything else. Unlikely to show up. I hope he's a villager, don't believe he's a wolf, fear he's Gifted, and really, really don't see why he applied to this game in the first place. Wouldn't mind double-lynching him with our favoured candidate, but am utterly against lynching him alone.


And me. Innocent, dreamt of by the seer (vide the anvil situation), boring you all stiff with talk of mass-revelation, and hoping to have some effect. Extremely keen to survive...

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Yes, if you haven't noticed, if you won't do the decent thing, I'm prepared to extract you. Yes, this will help the wolf if you don't agree to my advice. Which is rather the idea. "Rock and a hard place", indeed...

It seems that Ang can make the village do as he wants to. Judged only by his posting this day, he acts very wolvishly. But I still believe he's innocent. But a manipulator-ordo, there's no question of that.

Thinlomien-hedging around on the whole issue. Won't say what she is, so the Gifteds can "wisely or unwisely" make up their own minds. But says that if they're going to come clean, they should do so quickly. Still, we've seen her quite capable of schizophrenia before. Could be Gifted or innocent.

Gifteds aren't innocents? Thanks for the comments though. You are very able to make those who aren't fully at your side look mindless. Have you ever considered a career in politics?

(And you people aren't probably interested, but I found what's my problem: I have to comment everything though I don't have an opinion on the matter!)

EDIT: 700th post! Yippee!

[Thinlómien]

Argh. No one's online except me. And I maybe have to leave soon. I'm quite sure, I'll be able to come back, but not maybe for a long time.

If the gifteds won't reveal themselves, I'll vote Eonwe or Valesse.