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Old 03-05-2006, 06:52 PM   #1
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Right, so he was in the Second Age, but what did he do?
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Old 03-05-2006, 08:21 PM   #2
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Even less of a character than Fuinur. She's mentioned once or twice in The Two Towers, and now she gets her own spot in Second Age Survivor. She's just a filler for the Other Speakers category. And all she did was to provide Treebeard with something to sing about hundreds of years after she left. Not much of a role if you ask me.
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Old 03-05-2006, 11:07 PM   #3
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So what's your problem with Galadriel, hmm?
Oh, sheesh, you don't want me to get started. When I feel it is time to attack her, I will fully explain my reasons.

For now, let me just say that Elrond never gave himself too much credit, you never got the sense that he wanted his subjects to worship him, and most Tolkien fans don't give him too much credit (they usually give him too little). Galadriel on the other hand.....

Now, Firefoot, you are seriously trying to make a case for Ohtar? Saving sword shards does not vault a character into the big leagues. It is absolutely silly that you are even pretending to believe he should not be voted out sometime soon.
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Sometimes the underdogs deserve a chance to let themselves show their mettle
The underdogs had their whole lives to show their mettle, and guess what? The amount of mettle they showed was not sufficient to lift them above underdog position.

They are underdogs for a reason.
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I don't have a grudge against them (Noldor and Kings), but they aren't the only ones who should receive credit.
I never said they were the only ones who should receive credit. I just think they are the only ones who deserve to finish the game at the top.
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It's like giving all the credit in a movie to the actors but never mentioning the people who made the sets, wrote the script, did the filming, etc.
Maybe so, but the big awards go to the leading actors. Right now, we're deciding who gets the big trophy. You can thank the little people after this game is over.
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the illogicality and prejudice of the phantom's position
Illogical? No. If you are unable to see my logic, it isn't because it does not exist- it is because you have too little wit to see it.

And prejudiced? No, I am not prejudiced- I am discriminating. There is a big difference. Discrimination is based on logic and leads to wise decisions. For instance, I discriminate against roads with construction zones and take other roads. I also discriminate against boiling water- I refuse to drink it if it is boiling.

But, of course, you probably are much too enlightened to make cold, cruel-hearted decisions like that. You probably feel sorry for the cup of boiling water that no one will drink, and so will set out to spill all the glasses of perfectly good water so that the scalding water will have a chance to be consumed.

Go ahead. In the meanwhile, smart people like me will try to convince other smart people that scalding water is not fit to be drunk, and that characters like Ohtar and Oropher are not fit to win Survivor.
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Old 03-06-2006, 06:26 AM   #4
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:30 AM   #5
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Nay, Spawn; that particular game has passed us by. Do not suggest such lupine twists to my words.

Anyway, as I told our megalomaniacal dwarf, my agenda is very simple: Erendis must be eliminated. Elrond, Treebeard, and a bunch of others are worthy winners as far as I am concerned; but that is of secondary importance to me.

My task will be performed, and you cannot buy or barter with me—unless, of course, you are willing to crown Erendis the Queen of Survivor.

But I know you don't want that.

So continue this petty politicking if you wish; but I am astonished and, quite frankly, disgusted that some of you would equate the values of Glorfindel or whoever with that of Erendis, brat of Numenor.
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:47 AM   #6
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so unlike the homelife of our own dear phantom...
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Old 03-06-2006, 10:22 AM   #7
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An elf with a beard!
And he seems to be pretty useless in the Second Age.
Send him on vacation to Aman until the Third Age
(Cook's tour).
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